Scoreboard Watching: (Playoff Seeding)

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This is a Blazer article but it's still relevant to the West.

Scoreboard Watching: Seeding, Home-Court Still Well In Play

The Portland Trail Blazers host the Minnesota Timberwolves in their second-to-last home game of the 2014-15 regular season tonight at the Moda Center (tipoff scheduled for 7 pm on CSNNW and 620 AM) in the game the Trail Blazers will need to win in order to have any chance of getting home-court advantage in the first round of the 2015 playoffs. It’s still unlikely the Trail Blazers start the post-season at home even if they win out, which is a situation they probably wouldn’t be in had they not provided the Timberwolves with two of their 16 wins this season, but a win tonight keeps that hope alive.

Though the Trail Blazers in no way control their own destiny when it comes to home-court and which team they’ll end up facing in the first round. So let’s look at the other games on tonight’s schedule that have just as much to do with which team the Trail Blazers will play and where that series will be when the post-season starts as tonight’s game at the Moda Center…

New Orleans Pelicans @ Memphis Grizzlies, 5 pm

The Pelicans pasted the Thunder for the eighth and final playoff spot in the West by defeating the Golden State Warriors, a team that is already locked into the No. 1 seed and really has nothing to play for at this point, 103-100 Tuesday night in New Orleans. But unlike the Warriors, the Grizzlies, a team at least one model has as Portland’s most likely playoff opponent, could still end up anywhere between second and sixth in the standings with fives games to play. A win keeps Memphis at third in the West, a spot they currently share with the L.A. Clippers, while a loss would drop them into a tie with the Spurs for sixth, though San Antonio also plays tonight (more on that in a minute).

In short, a Memphis win decreases the chance of the Trail Blazers facing the Grizzlies in the first round, while a lot improves that possibility. The Grizzlies would host the Spurs if the playoffs started today, so one wonders if they’d rather fall to the fifth spot and improve their chances of hosting the Trail Blazers in the first round. Of course, with games left versus the Clippers (Memphis leads that series 2-1) and the Warriors, it’s also possible they slip to the sixth seed and end up playing either the Clippers or Spurs without home-court, which would be the worst possible outcome for the Grizzlies. So it seems like the most likely scenario is Memphis does their best to win out and hold on to the three seed.

Houston Rockets @ San Antonio Spurs, 5:30 pm

This is the first of two consecutive games between the Rockets and Spurs, with the next meeting taking place on Friday in Houston (that’s some quality late-season schedule making). The Spurs trail the Rockets by 1.5 games for the top spot in the Southwest Division with four games to play, so a win tonight by San Antonio would keep them in the running for the second seed. The season series is tied 1-1, so the tiebreaker is still up for grabs. You can assume that both teams will be trying their damnedest to win this one, though with the Spurs, you can never really tell.

If the Rockets win, they increase their lead on both the Grizzlies and Clippers to 1.5 games (though that changes depending on the result of Pelicans v. Grizzlies) and improve their chances of winning the Southwest Division, the two seed and a first round matchup versus the Mavericks, a team all but locked into the seventh seed. If the Spurs win, they pull to even with the Clippers for the third-best record in the West (though the Clippers own the tiebreaker) and either keep pace with or pass the Grizzlies pending the result of their game versus the Pelicans.

So in regard to the Trail Blazers, a Spurs win improves the chance of Portland playing the Spurs in San Antonio in the first round. A loss increases the chances of the Trail Blazers playing the Grizzlies or Clippers in the first round.
 

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Dizzy Reading: How the Spurs Can Move to No. 2
April 10, 12:00 pm — by Matthew Tynan

Do you like it when your head spins? If you answered ‘yes,’ then keep reading all the words written below. There is a fairly simple scenario that would give the Spurs the second seed in the Western Conference playoffs, but San Antonio does not totally control its own destiny. It’s gonna need a little help. Man, the race between the second, third, fifth, and sixth seeds in the West is nuts.

(Side note: To make an already tricky-ass explanation of the tiebreak scenarios a little bit easier, I’m eliminating the Trail Blazers from this discussion. They’re essentially locked in at No. 4 because they’ve won their division, but they’ve got 28 losses. shyt would have to go pretty badly for the Spurs, Rockets, Grizzlies, and Clippers for Portland’s position to change.)



The Spurs do not HAVE to win out in order to get the second seed, but if they drop a game it’s going to be really, really difficult. Two losses would make it damn near impossible. So, here’s the simple way to make it happen: If San Antonio beats Houston tonight and wins out, it would need the Grizzlies to lose once and the Rockets to win out (after tonight) to ensure the jump to No. 2 in the conference. In that scenario, it would win the division — which would guarantee a top-four finish — and bump ahead of the Clippers into the second spot because Golden State won the Pacific.

Basically, it really comes down to tonight’s game. If the Spurs win, they put themselves in the driver’s seat by ensuring that, if there’s a three-way tie atop the Southwest Division, they’d win the tiebreaker by virtue of the fact they’d have the best combined head-to-head record between San Antonio, Memphis, and Houston at 5-3. But if San Antonio wins tonight and finish in that three-way tie, and the Clippers finish the season with a better record, LAC would be the second seed and the Spurs would move to third.

The tricky part is, should the Spurs win out and the Grizzlies only lose once, San Antonio would need Houston to win out as well. This is because it would hold the three-way divisional tiebreaker and the advantage over Houston, but Memphis owns the individual head-to-head with the Spurs. So if the Spurs beat Houston and win out, but the Rockets end up losing again after that, San Antonio would need Memphis to lose at least two games.

Everybody good?

Wait, there’s more! Because I’m insane and so are some of you, HERE IS A LOOK AT THREE SCENARIOS THAT WOULD GIVE SAN ANTONIO THE SECOND SEED (if it does not win out):

Spurs lose tonight, Houston wins tiebreaker: 1. San Antonio would have to win its final two games. 2. The Rockets would have to lose all three games remaining on their schedule after tonight. 3. Memphis would have to lose three out of its remaining four games. 4. The fighting Doc Riverses would have to drop at least one game.

(Note: The Grizz and Clips play on Saturday night, so that’s kind of a big game. At this point, Spurs fans should be rooting for the Clippers.)

Spurs beat Houston, lose one of their final two games: 1. Rockets would have to lose one — AND ONLY ONE — of their final three games. 2. Grizzlies would have to lose at least two of their final four games. 3. Clippers would have to lose once.

(Note: Should the Rockets lose more than once in this scenario, the Grizzlies would have to lose at least three of their final four games.)

Spurs beat Houston, lose final two games: 1. Rockets would have to lose two — AND ONLY TWO — more games. 2. Grizzlies must lose at least three of their remaining games. 3. Clippers would have to lose two of their final three games.

(Note: Much like it is in the previous scenario, should Houston lose all four of its remaining games, the Spurs would then need Memphis to lose all four of its final games. This is super duper unlikely.)

As for the sixth, fifth, and third seeds: San Antonio can lose out and stay at six. If the Spurs win out, they’re guaranteed the third seed, regardless of other outcomes, by virtue of their combined head-to-head record between themselves, the Rockets, and the Clippers.

The fifth-seed situation is a bit more convoluted, but basically, the Spurs would have to lose once and get a combination of things to happen with those other three teams to land in that 4-v-5 matchup. And remember, if the team that grabs the fifth seed has a better record than Portland (assuming they stay in fourth), we’ll get that weird situation where the fifth seed gets home court in the first round.

Lastly, if the Spurs win tonight and the Clippers win tomorrow, and all four teams (MEM, LAC, SAS, HOU) wind up in a four-way tie at season’s end, San Antonio will grab the second seed.



So there ya go. That should make things more interesting during the last week of the season, provided the dizzy-bat race you just ran over the previous 650 words didn’t make you sick.

Personally, I’m hoping the Spurs find their way into the 2-v-7, 3-v-6 side of the bracket. I want the potential for a San Antonio vs. Golden State Western Conference Finals. The rest of the West doesn’t want that — they want the Spurs and Warriors to eat each other up in the second round so it’s only necessary for the other side of the bracket to face just one of them in order to make it through — but fans sure as hell should. It’ll be fun, regardless, but we can hope.

Happy basketballing, friends!
 

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NBA playoff picture: Western Conference matchups, tiebreakers and remaining schedules
on April 10, 2015 at 10:03 AM, updated April 10, 2015 at 12:52 PM

The Trail Blazers chances for home court advantage in the first round of the NBA playoffs took a major hit Thursday with Portland's loss to Golden State. But with less than a week remaining in the regular season there is still plenty left to be determined in the Western Conference.

The Golden State Warriors have secured the top seed and home court advantage. Dallas on Wednesday virtually guaranteed itself the 7th spot with a win over Phoenix, which eliminated the Suns from the playoffs. The Blazers look to be set in the fourth seed, but will almost certainly begin the postseason on the road.

As for the other five seeds in the West, it's going to be a fun final five days. Just a half game separates No. 2 and No. 6.

The San Antonio Spurs beat the Houston Rockets on Wednesday to pull within a half game of the Rockets and Memphis Grizzlies. The Spurs are tied record-wise with the Los Angeles Clippers at 53-26, but are stuck in sixth place because the Clippers hold the tiebreaker due to a better record against Western Conference teams.

Memphis (53-25) is currently in second despite having an identical record as third-seeded Houston. The Grizzlies and Rockets split the regular season series, but the Grizzlies have an edge thanks to the superior record against Southwest Division foes.

The Blazers (51-28) are the fourth seed, but are currently slated to open the playoffs on the road against the fifth-seeded Clippers (53-26). Winning the Northwest Divisionguaranteed the Blazers a top-four seed, but not home court advantage, which is determined first by overall record. If the Blazers and a non-division winner finish with the same record as the four and five seeds, Portland would get home court advantage thanks to the division crown.

The New Orleans Pelicans (42-36) hold the final playoff spot because of a 3-1 series lead over the Oklahoma City Thunder (42-36). The Pelicans have a brutal final week, so if they do end up with a postseason berth they will have earned it in April.

Friday's games should offer a little more clarity.

The Pelicans and Thunder both have home games on Friday against Phoenix and Sacramento respectively. The Spurs face the Rockets in Houston on Friday night. A win would give San Antonio the head-to-head tiebreaker and propel the reigning champs into the No. 3 spot. Houston would drop to sixth with the loss. The Rockets would have the same record as Los Angeles, but the Clippers hold the tiebreaker over the Rockets because of a better record against the West.

The Grizzlies are on the road to face the Jazz on Friday and then have a huge game against the Clippers in Los Angeles on Saturday. When the dust settles Sunday morning we'll likely have a good idea where everyone is headed. Enjoy the next 48 hours.

Standings

W L Pct Conf GB Conf Record
1 xyz-Golden State 64 15 .808 -- 39-10
2 x-Memphis 53 25 .679 10.0 34-15
3 x-Houston 53 25 .679 10.0 31-18
4 xy-Portland 51 28 .654 13.0 31-18
5 x-LA Clippers 53 26 .671 10.5 34-15
6 x-San Antonio 53 26 .671 10.5 30-19
7 x-Dallas 47 31 .603 16.0 26-22
8 New Orleans 42 36 .538 21.0 26-22

9 Oklahoma City 42 36 .538 21.0 22-27
(X - Clinched Playoff Spot, Y - Clinched Division, Z - Clinched Conference)

Playoff tiebreakers:

Two Teams Tied

  • (1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division.
  • (2) Better winning percentage in games against each other.
  • (3) Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if tied teams are in same division).
  • (4) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.
  • (5) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
  • (6) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in opposite conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
  • (7) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all opponents ("point differential").

More Than Two Teams Tied

  • (1) Division leader wins tie from team not leading a division.
  • (2) Better winning percentage in all games among the tied teams.
  • (3) Better winning percentage against teams in own division (only if all tied teams are in the same division).
  • (4) Better winning percentage against teams in own conference.
  • (5) Better winning percentage against teams eligible for playoffs in own conference (including teams that finished the regular season tied for a playoff position).
  • (6) Better net result of total points scored less total points allowed against all opponents ("point differential").
Current playoff matchups:

Warriors (1) vs. Pelicans (8)
Blazers (4) vs. Clippers (5)*
Grizzlies (2) vs. Mavericks (7)
Rockets (3) vs. Spurs (6)

*Clippers have home court advantage

Relevant head-to-head tie breakers:

Portland over Houston, 2-1
Portland over San Antonio, 3-1
Memphis over Portland, 4-0
Los Angeles over Portland, 3-1
Memphis over Dallas, 3-1
Los Angeles over Dallas, 2-1
Dallas over Oklahoma City, 3-1
Dallas over New Orleans, 3-1
New Orleans over Oklahoma City, 3-1
Houston and Memphis tied 2-2
Houston and Los Angeles tied 2-2
San Antonio and Memphis tied 2-2
San Antonio and Los Angeles tied 2-2
San Antonio and Dallas tied 2-2


Remaining schedules:

No. 3 Memphis: 53-25 (4 games left: 1 home, 3 road)

Fri. 10 at Utah
Sat. 11 at Los Angeles Clippers
Mon. 13 at Golden State
Wed. 15 vs. Indiana

No. 2 Houston: 53-25 (4 games left: 3 home, 1 road)

Fri. 10 vs. San Antonio
Sun. 12 vs. New Orleans
Mon. 13 at Charlotte
Wed. 15 vs. Utah

No. 4 Portland: 51-28 (3 games left: 1 home, 2 road)

Sat. 11 vs. Utah
Mon. 13 at Oklahoma City
Wed. 15 at Dallas

No. 5 Los Angeles Clippers: 53-26 (3 games left: 2 home, 1 road)

Sat. 11 vs. Memphis
Mon. 13 vs. Denver
Tue. 14 at Phoenix

No. 6 San Antonio: 53-26 (3 games left: 1 home, 2 road)

Fri. 10 at Houston
Sun. 12 vs. Phoenix
Wed. 15 at New Orleans

No. 7 Dallas: 47-31 (4 games left: 1 home, 3 road)

Fri. 10 at Denver
Sun. 12 at Los Angeles Lakers
Mon. 13 at Utah
Wed. 15 vs. Portland

No. 8 New Orleans: 42-36 (4 games left: 2 home, 2 road)

Fri. 10 vs. Phoenix
Sun. 12 at Houston
Mon. 13 at Minnesota
Wed. 15 vs. San Antonio

No. 9 Oklahoma City: 42-36 (4 games: 2 home, 2 road)

Fri. 10 vs. Sacramento
Sun. 12 at Indiana
Mon. 13 vs. Portland
Wed. 15 at Minnesota
 
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