Sean “Diddy” Combs launching a new charter school in Harlem

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Someone School me on the Charter School hate? too much stuff out there that it gets overwhelming when trying to research.
from what I have heard many feel that they are a rip off (many have even shyttier scores than the schools they pull students out of) and often have questionable standards/rules and are being used to further rail road poorer schools by sucking potential resources out of them
of course they vary so much that it is hard to get a feel on them
 

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from what I have heard many feel that they are a rip off (many have even shyttier scores than the schools they pull students out of) and often have questionable standards/rules and are being used to further rail road poorer schools by sucking potential resources out of them
of course they vary so much that it is hard to get a feel on them

Are all charter schools free? Or are they saying it is a rip off due to public funds being allocated to them in some form? Idk anything about these schools so help me out
 

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Are all charter schools free? Or are they saying it is a rip off due to public funds being allocated to them in some form? Idk anything about these schools so help me out

Charter schools are funded with public dollars but are run independently instead of by the school board. Ninety-nine percent of charter schools have to take any student who wants to attend. If too many students want to attend then seats have to be filled by lottery. There are two or three charters in New Orleans that select students by exam scores.

There is no blanket answer whether charters are good or bad. It pretty much depends on who is running the charter school and what type of students attend the school. In Arizona, two BASIS charter schools are in the top 10 of all high schools in the United States. That is because the schools are located in a wealthy part of town and most students are white and Asian and their parents are professionals.

Charters in some states are primarily attended by poor black and Hispanic kids, needless to say these schools don't do that well, but some do better than the neighboring schools that the kids would have gone to. The complaints about inner-city charters is the harsh punishment and slow kids getting pushed out of the school so they don't drag down test scores.

There have been numerous financial problems with charters in Ohio and Florida. Schools receive millions of dollars from taxpayers, then the school shuts down and the kids are tossed backed to traditional public schools. Neon Deion Sanders had two charter schools that he mismanaged in Texas. He paid 13 librarians and neither of the schools had a library.

I am not a fan of Umar Johnson but he does a good job of explaining that when a traditional public schools loses students to charter schools. The public school may have to be shut down for lack of students. Then when the charter has low test scores, it gets shut down and there is no longer a traditional neighborhood public school to go back to.

 

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Charter schools are funded with public dollars but are run independently instead of by the school board. Ninety-nine percent of charter schools have to take any student who wants to attend. If too many students want to attend then seats have to be filled by lottery. There are two or three charters in New Orleans that select students by exam scores.

There is no blanket answer whether charters are good or bad. It pretty much depends on who is running the charter school and what type of students attend the school. In Arizona, two BASIS charter schools are in the top 10 of all high schools in the United States. That is because the schools are located in a wealthy part of town and most students are white and Asian and their parents are professionals.

Charters in some states are primarily attended by poor black and Hispanic kids, needless to say these schools don't do that well, but some do better than the neighboring schools that the kids would have gone to. The complaints about inner-city charters is the harsh punishment and slow kids getting pushed out of the school so they don't drag down test scores.

There have been numerous financial problems with charters in Ohio and Florida. Schools receive millions of dollars from taxpayers, then the school shuts down and the kids are tossed backed to traditional public schools. Neon Deion Sanders had two charter schools that he mismanaged in Texas. He paid 13 librarians and neither of the schools had a library.

I am not a fan of Umar Johnson but he does a good job of explaining that when a traditional public schools loses students to charter schools. The public school may have to be shut down for lack of students. Then when the charter has low test scores, it gets shut down and there is no longer a traditional neighborhood public school to go back to.


Yeah...when Umar is ONLY talking about education, he's tolerable. shyts funny. :heh:
 

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Steve Perry already has successful charters under his belt (not without controversy of course). Minorities are succeeding in his schools. You can't argue against that.

He had other schools in Hartford? I'm only familiar with one Capital Preparatory Magnet, but it is prek-12. It has unusually low test scores considering that it operates under Sheff v. O'Neill desegregation agreement where 25 percent of the students are white kids from the suburbs. The school is only about half low-income . The SAT scores are so low it doesn't make sense considering the demographics: 408 reading,420 math and 396 writing. Those scores aren't just lower than the white average, but the black average too.

The school does have a high graduation rate, although at least one parent claims that is due to attrition by senior year. But hey, the state of Connecticut says the graduation rate is over 90 percent. The students then get accepted into open-admission universities that will accept anyone with a pulse.

To be fair, I don't think Steve Perry has ever run a charter school. Capital Prep Magnet School in Hartford is not a charter school. It is a public magnet school that uses a special theme, social justice, to attract students.

Capital Preparatory Magnet School
Capital Preparatory Magnet School in HARTFORD, CT | Best High Schools | US News
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Capital Preparatory Magnet School - Hartford, Connecticut - CT - School reviews
 

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He had other schools in Hartford? I'm only familiar with one Capital Preparatory Magnet, but it is prek-12. It has unusually low test scores considering that it operates under Sheff v. O'Neill desegregation agreement where 25 percent of the students are white kids from the suburbs. The school is only about half low-income . The SAT scores are so low it doesn't make sense considering the demographics: 408 reading,420 math and 396 writing. Those scores aren't just lower than the white average, but the black average too.

The school does have a high graduation rate, although at least one parent claims that is due to attrition by senior year. But hey, the state of Connecticut says the graduation rate is over 90 percent. The students then get accepted into open-admission universities that will accept anyone with a pulse.

To be fair, I don't think Steve Perry has ever run a charter school. Capital Prep Magnet School in Hartford is not a charter school. It is a public magnet school that uses a special theme, social justice, to attract students.

Capital Preparatory Magnet School
Capital Preparatory Magnet School in HARTFORD, CT | Best High Schools | US News
Capital Prep reacts after Farmington High students taunt them over SAT scores
Capital Prep Founder To Oversee Sean "Diddy" Combs' New Harlem School
Capital Preparatory Magnet School - Hartford, Connecticut - CT - School reviews

So is this guy pretty much hitting a juug based on peoples emotions?
 

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private schools turn a profit and just about every successful person ever went to one :manny:

two different things completely

shyt is in my face everyday in the city try an sell that shyt to someone who is buying.

think there is something cool about finessing taxpayers. shyt is retarded and people are making money hand over fist because the masses don't get it.
 

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two different things completely

shyt is in my face everyday in the city try an sell that shyt to someone who is buying.

think there is something cool about finessing taxpayers. shyt is retarded and people are making money hand over fist because the masses don't get it.
you're probably right when it comes to charter schools :patrice:
i've never really looked into them heavy
 

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Steve Perry is nothing but a snake.

It has been revealed that Steve Perry's old magnet school in Connecticut, Capital Prep, admitted athletes outside of the lottery process for years. The school was a sports powerhouse despite only having 200 high school students. Each student was required to play a minimum of two sports.

(In all the years that I have been reading and watching videos on Steve Perry's school this is the first time I am hearing about its sports program.)

When a girl basketball player, Janai Johnson, decided to transfer high schools in the middle of the school year, Capital Prep admitted her the same day she asked about transferring. When her father sued the school for banning him from campus, Steve Perry inadvertently admitted in legal documents that the girl was quickly admitted without going through the normal lottery and waitlist process.

Perry said in an affidavit. "Her mother brought her to the school, unannounced one afternoon, asked for us to accept Janai as a student [and] told me that they had pulled her out of Middletown High School."


One football player, Tyrrell Boseman, got into the school without applying! He "suddenly got notice to report to Capital Prep's 2012 orientation". He later won a state football championship at Capital Prep.

Acclaimed Capital Prep Magnet School Bypassed Normal Lottery Process For Athletes, Other Students
 
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