Sessions ends Obama-era policy encouraging courts to avoid slapping massive fines on poor defendants

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As I said before, Sessions could go down as straight the worst Attorney General in history. Literally everything he does is idiocy.

The hubris that has to accompany you when you become a powerful government figure is incredible. I mean, NO ONE thinks that some of these moves he's pulling are a good thing. I can't imagine who he's listening to, if it's anyone at all. Just unbelievable.

The funny thing is, I'm pretty sure he's still more popular among white America than Eric Holder and probably always will be. :francis:
 

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The funny thing is, I'm pretty sure he's still more popular among white America than Eric Holder and probably always will be. :francis:

Well, likely by a small margin, but that's not saying a whole lot.

When Holder left office, he had a 26% approval rating to a 37% disapproval rating (37% had no opinion). That came from a 44% approval rating among Democrats (40% had no opinion) and a 14% approval rating among Republicans (22% had no opinion). That translated to a 21% approval rating among White voters (37% had no opinion) and a 57% approval rating among Black voters (37% had no opinion).

As of late September, just after he announced he was ending DACA, Sessions was at a 25% approval rating to a 42% disapproval rating (33% had no opinion). I don't have any breakdown for those numbers, but it's almost certain that White Republicans are the only thing carrying him at all, so his %'s among White voters are probably somewhat higher than Holder's overall even though his total numbers are worse.

At levels like that though, I'm not sure who cares. :scust:
 

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what the "what did he do for black people" crowd don't get is that these small things mean something. if they were meaningless trump and his administration wouldn't get rid of them. it adds up. because the policy wasn't called "stop slapping massive fines on poor BLACK defendants" it wasn't doing anything for black people.

if hillary didn't do anything new to improve our life, just keeping the obama status quo would have been a tremendous victory.
 
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Sincere question, not because I agree with Session's but because I want to know.

From what I read the Obama administration sent letters advising courts to stop slapping these fines on low income people.

What could the letters do if the courts decided to defy the guidance?

I ask because these courts were way out of control and still are locally and there doesn't seem to be much policy to stop them under Democrats or Republicans.

For example, in Dekalb County in Atlanta it was so bad the ACLU got involved and sued the courts for usury. All this resulted in was the court being taken over by the state of Georgia...people are still being heavily fined and now all the money goes to the state.

What federally can be done to stop all this?

Also, what more needs to be done locally?
 
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everybody pull out your debit card and send the ACLU some change

debtors prisons are unconstitutional.

thats what these excessive fines and costs are, a roadway to debtors prison

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Sincere question, not because I agree with Session's but because I want to know.

From what I read the Obama administration sent letters advising courts to stop slapping these fines on low income people.

What could the letters do if the courts decided to defy the guidance?

I ask because these courts were way out of control and still are locally and there doesn't seem to be much policy to stop them under Democrats or Republicans.

For example, in Dekalb County in Atlanta it was so bad the ACLU got involved and sued the courts for usury. All this resulted in was the court being taken over by the state of Georgia...people are still being heavily fined and now all the money goes to the state.

What federally can be done to stop all this?

Also, what more needs to be done locally?
be energized and vote locally. these county and city elections are so small in terms of turnout you would be surprise how few votes it would take to swing them. if someone gave me a ballot and said i could only vote for either national politicians or local politicians, but not both. i'm going with local every time. but the great thing about real life is that i don't have to choose, i can can vote for everyone. also my donations mean more to my local reps because they don't get that much money so they know who their donors are personally.

back to your first question. even a "recommendation/advisory" from the federal govt has impact because it lets these locals know that while we may not be able to stop you, we're watching you and you will slip up. having someone check your work can be impactful.
 
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be energized and vote locally. these county and city elections are so small in terms of turnout you would be surprise how few votes it would take to swing them. if you someone gave me a ballot and said i could only vote for either national politicians or local politicians, but not both. i'm going with local every time. but the great thing about real life is that i don't have to choose, i can can vote for everyone. also my donations mean more to my local reps because they don't get that much money so they know who their donors are personally.

back to you first question. even a "recommendation/advisory" from the federal govt has impact because it lets these locals know that while we may not be able to stop you, we're watching you and you will slip up. having someone check your work can be impactful.

say that shyt again.
depending on where you live Judges are elected
we just had an election last year for DA [and our previous DA was a super devious bytch]
local elections absolutely effect your every day life.
your property taxes
your personal taxes
city ordinances
water and utility rates
the schools your kids go to
if megacorp xyz gets to open a haul your own trash facility next to your house
whether a redneck strip club can open across the street from your house and keep you awake with nosie and fukk up your parking
etc etc

vote.in.every.single.election.

from dogcatcher on up.

go see your local candidates speak
write/email/call their office

they work for us

also they are your future state bench
and then your future national bench

dont boo, vote.

cant complain that you dont like the choices
if you dont help select and influence what your choices are gonna consist of.
 
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