Shogun (FX/Hulu) - February 2024 :ohhh:

[Wig Twistin Season]

Game of Thrones set this bullshyt trend of taking forever to film a season.

So now every show wants to go 2-3 years for new episodes. Meanwhile in that time the hype either builds up so high that the letdown is inevitable, or people just stop giving a shyt altogether.

To begin shooting in 2026 is outrageous. And I love this show.

It was never meant to have multiple seasons. It’s based on a book and the story doesn’t go on after the first season ends. If I remember correctly, the book was based on real events, but not completely accurate.

All of that said, I don’t think this show needs another season. I’ll watch, but I’m not expecting anything close to as good as the first season. A lot of what made it great was learning the feudal Japanese culture through a white foreigner’s experiences. How can they do that again?

 

[Remote]

It was never meant to have multiple seasons. It’s based on a book and the story doesn’t go on after the first season ends. If I remember correctly, the book was based on real events, but not completely accurate.

All of that said, I don’t think this show needs another season. I’ll watch, but I’m not expecting anything close to as good as the first season. A lot of what made it great was learning the feudal Japanese culture through a white foreigner’s experiences. How can they do that again?

They had a Shogun tv show back in like the 1980s.

Pretty sure it ran longer than 10 episodes or whatever it was.

Edit - never mind. I was wrong. The Richard Chamberlain series was only 5 episodes long.

I’ll be quiet.

 

[King Static X]

I've said this before, but I have zero interest in season 2.

*My GOAT Yabushige got killed at the end of season 1. Nobody will be able to replace him as comic relief


*This show had false advertising/marketing.

Watching the trailer and seeing promo material for the first season, I thought Shogun would be more action-packed and epic. Instead, it was mostly just drama and feudal Japanese politicking (which is apparently how the book is). That was disappointing and underwhelming.

They can keep season 2

 

[Uchiha God]

wasn't this meant to be a limited series or am I tripping?

 

[TheNatureBoy]

wasn't this meant to be a limited series or am I tripping?

It was, but success changes everything.

 

[Bigbigguy]

wasn't this meant to be a limited series or am I tripping?

Every limited series is only limited till its really successful

 

[Uchiha God]

They killed some of the more interesting characters, namely Yabushige.

The Anjin wasn't really a character I cared for and that dude's pferformance was some fugazi/bizarro world Tom Hardy sharking, but we'll see what they gonna cook up I guess

 

[KalKal]

They had a Shogun tv show back in like the 1980s.

Pretty sure it ran longer than 10 episodes or whatever it was.

Edit - never mind. I was wrong. The Richard Chamberlain series was only 5 episodes long.

I’ll be quiet.

The runtime of the original 1980 series was about 9 hrs.
The runtime of the 2024 series was about 9.5 hrs.

 

[BelowTheMasonDixon]

So after watching the first 2 episodes and seeing the previews for the later episode's, it does look like we're getting backdoored into a white savior plot.

My suspicion was first peeked with the storm scene. There's simply no reason the Japanese would allow a European pilot to navigate a Japanese ship in Japanese waters. The chill viewer isn't going to care, but I fully understand how that scene feeds into the belief that only Europeans knew how to navigate the seas. It's why you're not taught that European explorers had native, African, and Islamic navigators on their ships.

Why wouldn't the Japanese know how to predict that a storm was coming? Why would the Japanese need to be told how to handle steering in a storm? Why wouldn't the Japanese have their own pilot?

Small details like that are overlooked as plot devices but this is how you smuggle ideas of European superiority.

Japanese ship navigators never encountered bad weather while sailing for hundreds of years But I'm 2eps in. It's piff so far. The map scene was dope AF