Should You Forgive Someone who did you Dirty? Should you Forgive yourself?

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The Vine @ Shepherd of the Hills / Media / Watch

carve out some time to check it out. This is a church service they have at the church I used to goto out in the valley(Shepherd of the hills) before I moved to L.A. But this service is a separate church service for young adults til whoever wants to be down lol called THE VINE. They have it at the same place just on Sunday evenings. My older brother is one of the ministry leaders over there. This is his 3rd sermon he has preached over there. I wouldn’t be a Christian if I didn’t share this with you. And its not because its my bro. its because what he’s talking about is 100% real.

IF you notice his message is at the top. But if you want to check out the previous weeks stuff you can click on those as well. Every Sunday they record these. So you can always check back later that night or Monday of the next week at this same link. And the new one should be up. If after what you have seen resonates with you. Go ahead and forward it to a friend/family member young or old.

and just to clue you in, he's talking about a lot of real issues we all have. not just church goers either. He brings up a personal issue to himself, where involves a little puffing and passing. I was one of those participants. but at the time i didnt know the reason why he was puffing and passing. You never know why people with you are sipping real hard or blowing real hard. no matter how fun they make it seem. even if you're as close as brothers. and thats not even the main point of the sermon.

 

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I THINK I HAVE THE CAPACITY TO FORGIVE ANYONE. I WON'T FORGET IT THOUGH.

 

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I THINK I HAVE THE CAPACITY TO FORGIVE ANYONE. I WON'T FORGET IT THOUGH.

listen to that sermon. and hit me back.

 

[ugksam]

Naw sometimes you gotta get someone back

 

[Just like bruddas]

take more guts to forgive and forget.

but i wont fukk with like that

 

[MR. SNIFLES]

BUT FIDDDY?????!!!
YO THIS GUY IS KINDA FUNNY.

 

[humble Hermit]

Yeah my Pops who i have an estrange relationship with. Before my granny passed over the summer she'd tell me to call him n shyt but I like why? He never thought about me much growing up and supported, so why should I be the one to break the ice? His wife died last year and all he did was mop to me. RIP but I didnt kow her and seh was the reason you never supported me. I'm in the Caribbean/US all my life and he's been living in London most his life. I do think about calling sometimes, but i can't....


fukk him

 

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Yeah my Pops who i have an estrange relationship with. Before my granny passed over the summer she'd tell me to call him n shyt but I like why? He never thought about me much growing up and supported, so why should I be the one to break the ice? His wife died last year and all he did was mop to me. RIP but I didnt kow her and seh was the reason you never supported me. I'm in the Caribbean/US all my life and he's been living in London most his life. I do think about calling sometimes, but i can't....


fukk him

call the dude. its not even about him as much as its for you.

do you know how much effort it takes for you to not call him? i'll prove it to you.

you see what you typed. now multiply that times how many days you've lived and thought about calling him but didnt. because you told yourself. "naw i aint calling dat fool."

it takes to much effort to keep it going. way to much. when you call him. DONT expect ANYTHING. thats the problem most people get into especially when its a wack parent or sibling. people Expect "okay if i be the bigger person and call you or break the ice then you better respond accordingly." problem is, odds are if the guy wasnt doing right by you anyway. his head was in the wrong place to begin with. so for his head to be in the right place all of a sudden it would take life changes to happen. that takes years. so call the man and dont expect a thing. be glad you can still call your pops. he wont be here forever. not saying you will miss someone you dont really see.
i had to tell my own wife to ring up her pops, before we got married. low and behold he passed away not that long after.

call the dude up. and say whats good which you pops. and just let him talk. dont say a thing. if he starts talking reckless. understand he's a reckless man. so it goes with the territory. just let him finish his talking. tell him you just called him to see how he was doing and thats was it. then hang up. you dont have to keep calling after that.

 

[FlyGuy]

I forgive those who ask for it. Getting along is a whole different thing tho

 

[humble Hermit]

call the dude. its not even about him as much as its for you.

do you know how much effort it takes for you to not call him? i'll prove it to you.

you see what you typed. now multiply that times how many days you've lived and thought about calling him but didnt. because you told yourself. "naw i aint calling dat fool."

it takes to much effort to keep it going. way to much. when you call him. DONT expect ANYTHING. thats the problem most people get into especially when its a wack parent or sibling. people Expect "okay if i be the bigger person and call you or break the ice then you better respond accordingly." problem is, odds are if the guy wasnt doing right by you anyway. his head was in the wrong place to begin with. so for his head to be in the right place all of a sudden it would take life changes to happen. that takes years. so call the man and dont expect a thing. be glad you can still call your pops. he wont be here forever. not saying you will miss someone you dont really see.
i had to tell my own wife to ring up her pops, before we got married. low and behold he passed away not that long after.

call the dude up. and say whats good which you pops. and just let him talk. dont say a thing. if he starts talking reckless. understand he's a reckless man. so it goes with the territory. just let him finish his talking. tell him you just called him to see how he was doing and thats was it. then hang up. you dont have to keep calling after that.

Thing is, I've went that route. Since 08. He's pretty laidback, never once has we ever had to go there. Calling London aint cheap, And I'll be damn if I have to buy a phone card to talk to a dead beat. He's living good, retired and got two houses, he should call me. It just really irked me when he told me why didnt my sister call him after his wife died I can't come to peace with that. I know he's very sick,old and he may die soon but I feel like

 

[WaveCapsByOscorp™]

i dunno. that shyt is hard to do. i can forgive sometimes but i feel like people rarely have it in their hearts to change how they are, nor do they really care about what they did. so, depending on what they did, i find it difficult to forgive. i mean, if it was an honest accident then i can. but i feel like sometimes people straight up don't care if they do something like lying, or steal, or cheat, or look out for themselves over you. people accept those qualities as the mode of operation; how the world works. so it's weird feeling the need to extend forgiveness to a person who's not seeking it. also, what's the point? i can still move on with my life, not forgive them and not dealing with them too if i feel like they don't give a damn...

 

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Thing is, I've went that route. Since 08. He's pretty laidback, never once has we ever had to go there. Calling London aint cheap, And I'll be damn if I have to buy a phone card to talk to a dead beat. He's living good, retired and got two houses, he should call me. It just really irked me when he told me why didnt my sister call him after his wife died I can't come to peace with that. I know he's very sick,old and he may die soon but I feel like

dude listen to me. i'm not telling you this from some angle where i'm clueless to what you're saying.

notice what i said. if your pops was a dummy to begin with which is why he left you and never really called. odds are he's still stupid. but YOu're NOT. thats why smart people do the smart thing. you call because you're the only person out of the both of you with common sense. he's the idiot. i mean the fact he hasnt called and talked right after all this time and he's YOur pops. lets you know he's an idiot. but YOU're not. Right? thats why you call. the bigger person is the wiser person. wisdom isnt automatic to years on the earth.

call the dude.

i told you my wife had the same issue. she was like why call this dude, when i know he will start talking reckless or being selfish asking for stuff. how on earth can you ask your kid for something if you a dead beat pops? shameless. but again. thats who he was at the time. he wasnt wise enough to have moved from that position in life. but i told her. DONT, EXPECT anything. she been to counseling years prior that told her the same thing. so she came to grips with the reality that. hey this dude is who he is. but he's still my father. so let me show my respect. and hit him up. "hey pops whats good?"
just like clock work, he start asking for stuff and talking about himself. being selfish. but hey. she didnt trip. she asked me if she should send him a care package. i said if you're thinking about it. send it. unless you're to broke to do so. get that weight off of your mind. she sent it and that was that. i said dont make it a habit. and a few months later. pops passed away.

 

[FaTaL]

naw they'll just do it again

 

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i dunno. that shyt is hard to do. i can forgive sometimes but i feel like people rarely have it in their hearts to change how they are, nor do they really care about what they did. so, depending on what they did, i find it difficult to forgive. i mean, if it was an honest accident then i can. but i feel like sometimes people straight up don't care if they do something like lying, or steal, or cheat, or look out for themselves over you. people accept those qualities as the mode of operation; how the world works. so it's weird feeling the need to extend forgiveness to a person who's not seeking it. also, what's the point? i can still move on with my life, not forgive them and not dealing with them too if i feel like they don't give a damn...

and thats why you really need to click on that link. and listen to that sermon bruh. he's talking to YOU for reals.

 

[shopthatwrecks]

cant be mad at the person who saw ya weakness...

bein mad aint gone take the dirt they did to u away..damage is done...

check yaself..