shyt you miss about Hip-Hop

[Rominati]

Yeah, but isn't that the reason why it also got played out? When nikkas on the streets wanted money over the craft, and stop innovating, is when people moved on. Making the same shyt over and over again with the grandpa rappers (like you said in another thread), heads got tired of that shyt and wanted something different. The same nikkas that played out the likes of Public Enemy and even the Wu got pushed to the side for bullshyt corporate rap in the early 00s. nikkas voluntarily changed the rap game for the worse, and the corporate heads took advantage of that. No one like accountability in here, so it had to be addressed.

Rap is from the streets to address the problems and to get away from negativity, not to engage in it. Old heads that took part of that bullshyt back in the early 90s twisted that part of the message and wanted to be poverty pimps (basically exploiting the hood) for a few $$$ while made the regular black person into a savage thug. Now they basically re-written history and think that there are only one side of the streets that its about: the criminal side of the first person-view.

@ you thinking that you gotta have a crazy back story and "swag" to have personality. Best to let the young MCs be themselves and grow onto their own sound, not for everyone to be confined to one image and style. It ain't no conspiracy or no corporate shyt: no one wants to hear that redundant street shyt anymore. Especially when they are not contributing to anything new or of anything of timeless quality.

nikka a couple posts back you were dissing NWA

What if we dont want to hear Public Enemy , what if we wanna hear the new young 2013 versions of Jay, Nas, Dipset, The Lox, Game,Scarface, Jeezy , TI?

What if we dont want to hear some bullshyt, black man struggle against the world and just want to hear 1st person street shyt from a hood nikka. Wheter he is a criminal, a hustler, or a hard working black man trying to make it out.

Jus cuz you dont identify with street shyt doesnt mean that the world doesnt. Not everybody in the world wants to hear Drake, Logic, Mackelmore, n J.Cole's suburbia plights. And we all know Im a big fan of Drake. I dont even like the image that Meek Mill portrays, thats why I feel more than ever, the hood needs more representatives in 2013 rap. We are all not savages, or redudant cliches. But besides, you aint answer my question.


WHERE ARE YOU FROM?

Edit: And yes, yes you do need swag, style, finesse, and a dope ass backstory to be a credible RAPPER. This shyt is ENTERTAINMENT. Not some cumbaya fest. I swear I rather have 10 more Future's n Young Scooters in the game than 10 more dull ass J.Cole's .

 

[Wild self]

nikka a couple posts back you were dissing NWA

What if we dont want to hear Public Enemy , what if we wanna hear the new 2013 versions of Jay, Nas, Dipset, The Lox, Game,Scarface, Jeezy , TI?

What if we dont want to hear some bullshyt, black man struggle against the world and just want to hear 1st person street shyt from a hood nikka. Wheter he is a criminal, a hustler, or a hard working black man trying to make it out.

Jus cuz you dont identify with street shyt doesnt mean that the world doesnt. Not everybody in the world wants to hear Drake, Logic, Mackelmore, n J.Cole's suburbia plights. And we all know Im a big fan of Drake. I dont even like the image that Meek Mill portrays, thats why I feel more than ever, the hood needs more representatives in 2013 rap. We are all not savages, or redudant cliches. But besides, you aint answer my question.


WHERE ARE YOU FROM?

Seriously? Judging black folk from where they from? Ain't that crabbish and rather short-sighted? I Came from a black suburbs. Not no white washed shyt. Black folk that are ambitious that were former Black Panthers and Civil Rights Activists. Whatever assumptions you have about me-DEAD IT.

I never dissed NWA's music. Cube is top 10 MC ever and made all kinds of aggressive socially conscious shyt that touched on all angles of life. I dissed their image that hard-headed nikkas love and ran with it that hampered Hip Hop's creativity and made it into a tool that people outside the culture stereotype us with.

P.S. Rakim and PE came from L.I. aka the burbs and they made all kinds of legendary music. Where you from doesn't depend on how "real" you are. The street shyt had its place in Hip Hop history, but that shyt is dead and uninspired in 2013. That angle is played to death with nothing left new. About time the public can hear from other perspectives of the hood like Cole and K-Dot, or even the musically talented KRIT. I ain't into no Macklemore or any of that shyt.

What I miss about Hip Hop is that black power shyt and that needs to return. Not no black on black crime shyt that was glorified for the longest. The trap nikkas had the radio and mainstream for a decade. Time for them to evolve or move on.

 

[Rominati]

I Came from a black suburbs.

Thank You, thats all I needed to hear.

You were straight bugging throughout this thread, saying that rap music turned us into black savage thugs . Thought you were a st0rmfr0nt cac or sumthing.

Now I understand. You jus feel insecure cuz you feel you cant relate to tha hood. Its all good. ***Newsflash*** tho. 95% of nikkas from the hood dont act like the rappers you see on TV. But see you wouldnt know that cuz you are not from there. nikkas in my hood nowadays prolly relate to Drake more than a Uncle Murda.

 

[Jone2three45]

I miss the live and die for hip hop days, that feeling fully left the game around 2005.

#NP Kris Kross - Live and Die for Hip Hop

 

[Wild self]

Thank You, thats all I needed to hear.

You were straight bugging throughout this thread, saying that rap music turned us into black savages thugs . Thought you were a st0rmfr0nt cac or sumthing.

Now I understand. You jus feel insecure cuz you feel you cant relate to tha hood. Its all good. ***Newsflash*** tho. 95% of nikkas from the hood dont act like the rappers you see on TV. But see you wouldnt know that cuz you are not from there. nikkas in my hood nowadays prolly relate to Drake more than a Uncle Murda.

you butchered my message and tryna twist it. I never acted like I wanted to be a part of the hood. Hell, that reppin (insert area) is bullshyt that makes a lot of black folk not develop themselves fully and I ain't on that shyt. I'm good where I'm at and I don't do that crabs-in-a-barrel shyt. I never said that the hood is filled with savages or thugs, just the poverty pimp rappers that exploit the hood and make the average black person look that way. I said that the NWA image (not the music, just the image) made a lot of people all over and made relations much harder than they should be, and brainwashed SOME people to be that shyt.

Read the last post I made. The WHOLE thing. Not that Bill O'Reilly shyt that you on.

 

[KinksandCoils]

I listened to hip hop when I was very young. I remember when I liked most of the songs, minus about 2-4 on andp album now I only like about 3-5 songs on an album and that's not just hip hop. I remember buying CDs all the time. I was to young to do the midnight release....even though I wouldn't have anyways.

 

[Trapped]

I miss the beats the most...that real Premo, Mobb, RZA, Pete Rock type of beats that really added to the song. Most of the shyt now sounds either techno, pop, too Southern influenced or generic.

 

[Urbanmiracle]

I miss the energy around album releases. Nowadays people drop albums and after a week it's forgotten. Back in the days, certain acts, it was an event. We had something like that with Jays latest but the quality wasnt there. I missed how each release would inspire the other rappers to step their fukking game up. Prodigy touched on this a few years ago in a YouTube video. I mean I would listen to early mos def, Talib kweli, common, Dre, outkast, scar face, nas and slum village and be like damn, I wanna do that. I wanna make music like that. I wanna do that shyt. You don't get inspired by music anymore. It's just flash to get ya attention for a few minutes then its on the next flash. I just miss the fun. Rappers looked like they were having fun. nikkas ain't having fun because they are too worried about their dollars and celebrity. Rappers used to not give a fukk. Ima make a hot album doing what I do. And people felt that shyt. When you real and you have talent and skills, people will open wallets.


Rappers used to take their time. Perfect their craft. I remember KRS one saying he would practice his raps in his room before he even performed them for the living room. Now nikkas get high and say whatever. I remember you can say your opinion. The words "hater" and "revelant" are killing hip hop.

 

[Sonic Boom of the South]

nah, you don't have nikkas like mobb deep, the lox, etc spitting that hard shyt. It's a whole bunch of I use drugs music, but not that hard shoot em up bang bang slanging dope in the pj's shyt (well trap rap, but IMO it doesn't have that same dark grimy feel)

i disagree

there is an overload of trap music and gangster shyt out

the thing is, the quality is pure trash

that hard shyt back in the day was better quality than anything that is out now

the nikka Prodigy was a better MC than the so called MCs out now
Prodigy had iller verses than trash ass Drake, Kendrick, Jcole, Wale and the rest combined

 

[Wild self]

I miss comedy rap that exercises creativity. Every rapper wants to be super serious for no reason at all.