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Some people in here want to preserve jobs for their illegal family members.

@Pull Up the Roots you are 50+ taking up for illegals.

You lived seeing roles like farming and construction be largely Black, and over a few years you saw all those Black men and women replaced by illegals; why do you fight tooth-and-nail for them while Black folk flounder about?

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Quote where I'm taking up for "illegals." You can't, because I didn't. You just can't reconcile someone not treating them like a scapegoat.

See, this is the problem with so many of you Tariq Nasheed disciples -- you can't argue in good faith. You talk loud about history but never actually engage with it. Instead, you regurgitate what he feeds you and ignore the actual structural forces that shaped Black labor in this country.

You say things like "farming and construction roles were largely Black," but that's just not true. We were excluded from those jobs for most of the 20th century. We were locked out of unions, denied apprenticeships, and pushed into the lowest-paying, most unstable jobs. Black people fought tooth and nail just to get into those industries in the first place, and even when we did, we were often last hired, first fired. And this was *before* there was an immigrant labor influx.

Your whole argument is built on lies and bad faith, especially your Antebellum comment. The subtext there is nasty. After slavery, we were sharecroppers and tenant farmers. We were exploited, disenfranchised, and robbed of land through violence and policy. That labor was never dignified, protected, or profitable for Black people as a group. And you're in here arguing in favor of that exploitation.

So no, Black people didn't get "replaced" by immigrants. We were already marginalized in those industries. What actually happened was that corporations and landowners looked for a new exploitable workforce, and instead of improving labor conditions to attract domestic workers (Black or otherwise), they just shifted the exploitation onto undocumented workers.

You think you're "pro-Black," but you're defending a version of history that erases the barriers Black people faced, and you're blaming migrant laborers, not the bosses, not the policies, not the economic model that's been undercutting Black labor for generations. In essence, you're running interference for systemic racism while pretending to call it out.

So don't talk to me about who's floundering. Talk to the politicians and corporations who gutted labor protections, busted unions, defunded vocational training, and shut Black people out of generational wealth. That's who you should be mad at.
 

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Quote where I'm taking up for "illegals." You can't, because I didn't. You just can't reconcile someone not treating them like a scapegoat.

See, this is the problem with so many of you Tariq Nasheed disciples -- you can't argue in good faith. You talk loud about history but never actually engage with it. Instead, you regurgitate what he feeds you and ignore the actual structural forces that shaped Black labor in this country.

You say things like "farming and construction roles were largely Black," but that's just not true. We were excluded from those jobs for most of the 20th century. We were locked out of unions, denied apprenticeships, and pushed into the lowest-paying, most unstable jobs. Black people fought tooth and nail just to get into those industries in the first place, and even when we did, we were often last hired, first fired. And this was *before* there was an immigrant labor influx.

Your whole argument is built on lies and bad faith, especially your Antebellum comment. The subtext there is nasty. After slavery, we were sharecroppers and tenant farmers. We were exploited, disenfranchised, and robbed of land through violence and policy. That labor was never dignified, protected, or profitable for Black people as a group. And you're in here arguing in favor of that exploitation.

So no, Black people didn't get "replaced" by immigrants. We were already marginalized in those industries. What actually happened was that corporations and landowners looked for a new exploitable workforce, and instead of improving labor conditions to attract domestic workers (Black or otherwise), they just shifted the exploitation onto undocumented workers.

You think you're "pro-Black," but you're defending a version of history that erases the barriers Black people faced, and you're blaming migrant laborers, not the bosses, not the policies, not the economic model that's been undercutting Black labor for generations. In essence, you're running interference for systemic racism while pretending to call it out.

So don't talk to me about who's floundering. Talk to the politicians and corporations who gutted labor protections, busted unions, defunded vocational training, and shut Black people out of generational wealth. That's who you should be mad at.
Good post, these posters celebrating black people being pigeonholed back into manual labor jobs at best are misguided, at worst and probably the most likely outcome, agents of white supremacy.

Instead of asking, after decades since the civil rights act being passed why are large swaths of black people competing for undesirable manual labor versus competing in corporate America?

Set your heights higher black men, you should be in a better position than where your ancestors were during Jim Crow.

Ask yourself why is it that we are still oppressed? Those doing the oppressing need to see the anger not the illegal immigrants who you shouldn’t be competing with in the first place
 

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Good post, these posters celebrating black people being pigeonholed back into manual labor jobs at best are misguided, at worst and probably the most likely outcome, agents of white supremacy.

Instead of asking, after decades since the civil rights act being passed why are large swaths of black people competing for undesirable manual labor versus competing in corporate America?

Set your heights higher black men, you should be in a better position than where your ancestors were during Jim Crow.

Ask yourself why is it that we are still oppressed? Those doing the oppressing need to see the anger not the illegal immigrants who you shouldn’t be competing with in the first place
So a man can't work construction while he's on the come up? Or is it straight from the womb to Corporate America?
 

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So a man can't work construction while he's on the come up? Or is it straight from the womb to Corporate America?
Working construction doesn’t send you to corporate America.

If you want to work construction, more power to you - there’s nothing stoping you from working in that industry right now. However, black people should not be funneled into those type of industries due to lack of opportunity likes it’s the Jim Crow era

The abolishment of DEI and affirmative action was a back door way of cacs booting black people out of corporate America
 
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