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:comeon: Yea because Scottie was such a bum that he took the Bulls team without Jordan after his 1st "retirement" and won 57 games without him, and actually made Armstrong and Grant into All Stars, the first and only times they ever were. That Bulls team would have made it to the finals in '94 if it wasn't for those questionable calls vs. the Knicks and if he didn't blow up against Kukoc. Even the real NBA legends know that without Scottie, Jordan wouldn't be the player he was, and vice-versa with Pippen. Same thing can be said with Shaq and Kobe during the 3-peat.
 

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yall ****** is bugging thinking that if mike didnt have pippen he wouldve won those rings real talk trade pippen with say someone at that time...matter of fact pippen was one of the best small forwards of that era you cant be serious.who would you take over him at that time mason,horry,maybe wilkens but dont think him and mike wouldve been able to work together.
 

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yall ****** is bugging thinking that if mike didnt have pippen he wouldve won those rings real talk trade pippen with say someone at that time...matter of fact pippen was one of the best small forwards of that era you cant be serious.who would you take over him at that time mason,horry,maybe wilkens but dont think him and mike wouldve been able to work together.
Who said this?
 

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yall ****** is bugging thinking that if mike didnt have pippen he wouldve won those rings real talk trade pippen with say someone at that time...matter of fact pippen was one of the best small forwards of that era you cant be serious.who would you take over him at that time mason,horry,maybe wilkens but dont think him and mike wouldve been able to work together.

this is the reason this debate is so damn hard to have. cause any criticism of pippen is met with guys saying shyt like this. nobody said mike didnt need scottie. and nobody said scottie was a bum.

the point is, as far as sidekicks jordan did not have a sidekick like magic had with kareem, bird had with mchale, kobe had with shaq, or even bron has with wade. those guys mentioned were superstars who could take over the games and dominate if called on to do such. there is a reason mike has 6 finals mvps and that is because scottie never dominated to the point to make it debatable. scottie was not a bum, but he was not a dynamic scorer and could not take over a game regularly. may have happened in spots, but over the course of a season, it was jordan having to go ham, or bust. meanwhile those other guys, if they having a tough shooting night, or if they having a tough time to score defensively, shaq, kareem, mchale, wade, can flat out take over that game and dominate it. scottie was not that type of player. he could effect the game a certain way defensively but offensively he was not dynamic enough to draw double teams to free jordan up. most nights it was still jordan carrying the scoring, jordan setting the tone, jordan closing the game. these other guys with side kicks didnt have that burden.

again this is not saying scottie is a bum, imo he still a top 50 player of all time, but as far as 1-2 punches, you cant compare scottie to wade, shaq, kareem, and mchale. he wasnt that type of superstar.
 

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this is the reason this debate is so damn hard to have. cause any criticism of pippen is met with guys saying shyt like this. nobody said mike didnt need scottie. and nobody said scottie was a bum.

the point is, as far as sidekicks jordan did not have a sidekick like magic had with kareem, bird had with mchale, kobe had with shaq, or even bron has with wade. those guys mentioned were superstars who could take over the games and dominate if called on to do such. there is a reason mike has 6 finals mvps and that is because scottie never dominated to the point to make it debatable. scottie was not a bum, but he was not a dynamic scorer and could not take over a game regularly. may have happened in spots, but over the course of a season, it was jordan having to go ham, or bust. meanwhile those other guys, if they having a tough shooting night, or if they having a tough time to score defensively, shaq, kareem, mchale, wade, can flat out take over that game and dominate it. scottie was not that type of player. he could effect the game a certain way defensively but offensively he was not dynamic enough to draw double teams to free jordan up. most nights it was still jordan carrying the scoring, jordan setting the tone, jordan closing the game. these other guys with side kicks didnt have that burden.

again this is not saying scottie is a bum, imo he still a top 50 player of all time, but as far as 1-2 punches, you cant compare scottie to wade, shaq, kareem, and mchale. he wasnt that type of superstar.

:shaq2: I see how you're trying to act like shaq wasn't the superstar and kobe the sidekick in that situation
 

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:shaq2: I see how you're trying to act like shaq wasn't the superstar and kobe the sidekick in that situation

for the sake of argument, kobe is normally the one mentioned in comparison vs jordan.

and in those other comparisons, you could argue there really was no side kick, it was two alph males two superstars who could dominate the game

pippen affected the game on the defensive end, but not on the offensive end enough to command a double team and take over a game. in those other case those other players could take over the game.
 
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