SMH..Oklahoma Cops can now seize your electronic funds on the road

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SUMMARY

"If you are suspected of criminal activity, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol can use ERAD to scan your cards and take money from prepaid cards without a warrant or arrest. The state police began using 16 of the readers last month.Developed in 2012, the card readers have allowed state and local police to seize more than $1 million during field tests"

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Oklahoma Cops Find A New Way To Take People's Money, Even If They Don't Have Cash
CARD READERS ALLOW OKLAHOMA HIGHWAY PATROL TO SEIZE SUSPECTS’ MONEY

Oklahoma police agencies are being equipped with devices that allow officers to scan prepaid debit cards and target funds linked to them for civil asset forfeiture, which allows law enforcers to permanently seize property they suspect is connected to criminal activity.

The Oklahoma Department of Public Safety has purchased Electronic Recovery and Access to Data machines for installation in Oklahoma Highway Patrol and Oklahoma City police cruisers, according to an Oklahoma Watch report published Tuesday. The device tells officers the balance of prepaid debit cards and gift cards, and allows them to seize the money if they determine it’s suspicious. ERAD readers also can provide limited information about pretty much any card with a magnetic strip, including bank debit cards and credit cards.

Oklahoma has become a battleground in the debate over civil asset forfeiture reform in recent years, prompted by high-profile cases of cops using the practice to take cash and property from innocent people — often without charging them with a crime. Thanks to the new ERAD readers, police can now access people’s electronic funds as well.

Each ERAD reader is costing the state about $5,000, plus about $1,500 for training. The state has agreed to pay the manufacturer, ERAD Group, 7.7 percent of all funds forfeited with the readers.

Law enforcement officials in Oklahoma and elsewhere describe civil asset forfeiture as an important weapon against the drug trade, allowing them to target illicit proceeds that may not be in proximity to contraband. They say ERAD technology is a necessary tool to keep up with criminals who have begun putting money on prepaid cards in order to avoid having cash seized by police.

“If someone has 300 cards taped up and hidden inside the dash of a vehicle, we’re going to check that,” Lt. John Vincent, public information officer for the Oklahoma Highway Patrol, told Oklahoma Watch.

In this scenario, the presence of the cards alone may give an officer probable cause to run each card through the ERAD reader and seize the associated funds.

To avoid losing the money permanently, the owner would have to fight an expensive and time-consuming legal battle to prove the property wasn’t connected to criminal activity. In civil forfeiture proceedings, the legal principle of “innocent until proven guilty” is effectively inverted.

A hidden stack of hundreds of cash cards may seem inherently suspicious, but critics of civil asset forfeiture say hypotheticals like this obscure concerns that the practice is overused, often in ways that violate people’s due process and property rights.

“Whether someone has 100 debit cards or one, that in and of itself is not illegal,” state Sen. Kyle Loveless (R), who has spearheaded an unsuccessful push to overhaul Oklahoma’s civil forfeiture laws, told The Huffington Post.

no wonder other countries are jealous of our freedom

"If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you,” Oklahoma Highway Patrol Lieutenant John Vincent toldNews9.com.

This cop saying some dumbass shyt...Isnt the state supposed to prove they are the ones with a legitimate reason to take what is yours and not the other way around.

 

[the cac mamba]

not that i agree with this, but what the fukk is a prepaid card

so people are just loading these cards with undeclared cash? cry me a river if the IRS knew about it you had nothing to worry about

but like i said, i dont agree with it in principle

 

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THIS IS STILL SHADY AS fukk AND HIGHLY ILLEGAL....

 

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THIS IS STILL SHADY AS fukk AND HIGHLY ILLEGAL....

Its shady but technically not illegal...they exploited the gray area in the drug laws that allow proceeds of criminal activity to be seized

 

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Its shady but technically not illegal...they exploited the gray area in the drug laws that allow proceeds of criminal activity to be seized

The city of OKL. opening themseves up to massive federal lawsuits... I can just imagine at christmas your going shopping the cops pull you over scan your gift cards, can you prove this money is yours, no? its ours until then wasnt there a referendum to repeal the FEDERAL civil asset forfeiture laws... anyone can see its plain as day they just padding their fukking pockets. its literally highway robbery...

 

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not that i agree with this, but what the fukk is a prepaid card

so people are just loading these cards with undeclared cash? cry me a river if the IRS knew about it you had nothing to worry about

but like i said, i dont agree with it in principle

Its a card you buy and load with cash and then use like a creditcard (looks the same too) They are popular with poor people who cant get regular credit cards and also unfortunately scammers ,Identity thieves and drug cartels.

They have low limits like $100- $200 or something like that so its not unusual for someone who uses them to have several

The IRS isnt an issue anyway cos you have to buy them with cash

 

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The city of OKL. opening themseves up to massive federal lawsuits... I can just imagine at christmas your going shopping the cops pull you over scan your gift cards, can you prove this money is yours, no? its ours until then wasnt there a referendum to repeal the FEDERAL civil asset forfeiture laws... anyone can see its plain as day they just padding their fukking pockets. its literally highway robbery...

So far theres not much outrage..im sure the cops are picking targets with out of state plates who cant afford good legal representation ...if your on live on the east coast would you bother driving to Oklahoma for several hours for 5-10 court dates months apart just to get $1000 back?

youll say fukk it...im just never driving through that s**thole again

 

[notPsychosiz]

filthy cops

 

[FaTaL]

thats just foul

 

[Red Shield]

Heard about this... obvious what this shyt is too



But it's whatever.. just showing the usa is in decline :doomed:

 

[humble forever]

Cops stay using civil asset forfeiture to steal. Really fukked up, I'm very against it. Read some horrible stories that made me feel like I was living under the cops boot by the end of them. Robbed and by them taking your shyt guilty until proven innocent.

 

[newworldafro]

So basically this is Oklahoma's response to Colorado MJ referendum.
Didn't Oklahoma just sue Colorado for people taking MJ out of the state into their state?

 

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Heres a story for all you dumbasses who say...If youre doing nothing illegal theres nothing to fear

How police took $53,000 from a Christian band, an orphanage and a church
The 40-year-old Texas man, a refugee from Burma who became a U.S. citizen more than a decade ago, was heading home to Dallas to check on his family. He was on a break from touring the country for months as a volunteer manager for the Klo & Kweh Music Team, a Christian rock ensemble from Burma, also known as Myanmar. The group was touring the United States to raise funds for a Christian college in Burma and an orphanage in Thailand.

Eh Wah managed the band's finances, holding on to the cash proceeds it raised from ticket and merchandise sales at concerts. By the time he was stopped in Oklahoma, the band had held concerts in 19 cities across the United States, raising money via tickets that sold for $10 to $20 each.

The sheriff's deputies in Muskogee County, Okla., pulled Eh Wah over for a broken tail light about 6:30 p.m. on Feb. 27. The deputies started asking questions — a lot of them. And at some point, they brought out a drug-sniffing dog, which alerted on the car. That's when they found the cash, according to the deputy's affidavit.

There was the roughly $33,000 from ticket sales and donations, much of it earmarked for the religious college back in Burma, according to Eh Wah and the band members.

There was the $1,000 in cash donations to the orphanage in Thailand, small bills bundled in two or three dozen sealed envelopes with the orphanage's name written on the

If they can rob a born again evangelical christian band............they can rob you too

 

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Heres a story for all you dumbasses who say...If youre doing nothing illegal theres nothing to fear


If they can rob a born again evangelical christian band............they can rob you too

I read this story a while back, and for them to have customized readers to steal from gift cards is WAY BEYOND fukked up...

 

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