Snowden 2009 "Leakers Should Get Shot In The Balls."

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Edward Snowden In 2009: Leakers Should Be 'Shot In The Balls'

NSA leaker Edward Snowden despised classified leaks in 2009, illustrating that the former Booz Allen Hamilton employee was not always the champion of transparency that he has become.

The technology website ArsTechnica published IRC chats where he railed against a New York Times story about the U.S. rejecting an Israeli request for aid to attack an Iranian nuclear site and the United States' covert efforts to sabotage Iran's nuclear program.

"Are they TRYING to start a war? Jesus christ. they're like wikileaks," he said in the chat.

"they're just reporting, dude," said another user.

"moreover, who the fukk are the anonymous sources telling them this?" he said. "those people should be shot in the balls."

Snowden's views have evolved since the exchange. He has praised leakers like Bradley Manning, Bill Binney, Thomas Drake and John Kiriakou. Wikileaks has been paying for his lodging, flights and legal counsel since he left Hong Kong this weekend on an Aeroflot flight bound for Moscow. Russian President Vladimir Putin said Snowden is in the transit area of Moscow's Sheremeteyvo Airport, but he has not been seen.

Snowden, in the chat, also criticized reporting on classified information.

"is it unethical to report on the government's intrigue?" asked a user in the chat.

"VIOLATING NATIONAL SECURITY? no." he responded.

"meh. national security." responded the user.

"Um, YEEEEEEEEEEEES.that shyt is classified for a reason," he said. "it's not because "oh we hope our citizens don't find out. it's because "this shyt won't work if iran knows what we're doing."

"I am so angry right now. This is completely unbelievable," he said.

Snowden's disclosures of the National Security Agency's phone and internet spying programs have been criticized for the very same reason -- that they violate national security.
 

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:huhldup: Lets hope an undercover agent doesnt get a hold of him and bring him to a quiet place.
 

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SMH @ people still acting like this dude is a hero

Don't get me wrong - I'm glad he dropped that exposal, and I'm not saying he's the evil criminal the gov't is trying to paint him as - but nikkas need to stop acting like he's some tragic hero that won't get recognition and praise for his actions universally until way into the future :rudy:

Those clowns over at Reddit have him at Gawd status :snoop:
 

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reading comprehension much, brehs?

he wasn't referring to those who leaked information about big brother reading every damn keystroke we put into our phones and computers. there is a serious distinction that you should have picked up on
 

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The guy is obviously are formely pro-government delusional fanboy. I guess working for the demonic governmental organziations have caused him to realize the evil in which he was pariticipating and he then decided he no longer wanted to be a part of it.

I for one applaud the bravery and cahojones of this American patriot! God willing and God speed to the OG Swoden!

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reading comprehension much, brehs?

he wasn't referring to those who leaked information about big brother reading every damn keystroke we put into our phones and computers. there is a serious distinction that you should have picked up on

Lol ah yes....the Snowden groupies trying to hide behind semantics to spin in defense for their hero...

I'm going to enjoy this...who else is going to explain what he "really meant" lol
 

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Lol ah yes....the Snowden groupies trying to hide behind semantics to spin in defense for their hero...

I'm going to enjoy this...who else is going to explain what he "really meant" lol

:demonic: "it's hardly a perfect parallel; Snowden was upset about leaks over US covert operations in Iran, which is different from the domestic spying and offensive cyberwar programs he felt compelled to make public."
 

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Why does it matter what he said at one point, where he's at now, or what he's going to say?

Still doesn't hide what was revealed about the NSA and the government. More distractions from the real issue at hand.
 

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Why does it matter what he said at one point, where he's at now, or what he's going to say?

Still doesn't hide what was revealed about the NSA and the government. More distractions from the real issue at hand.

How is this relevant to the information that our government is violating the 4th Amendment, even by their own admission?

LOL @ this

If it was revealed in a thread that George Zimmerman was caught stealing from a store 5 years ago, there wouldn't be a soul talkin' about "b-b-but what that got to do with Trayvon's murder"....it would be nothing but further hate for him

Yet when it comes to Snowden, we're supposed to just "stick to the real issue" :heh:
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

Classic case.

is a logical fallacy that attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position; it attempts to show that a criticism or objection applies equally to the person making it. This dismisses someone's point of view based on criticism of the person's inconsistency, and not the position presented, whereas a person's inconsistency should not discredit their position. Thus, it is a form of the ad hominem argument. To clarify, although the person being attacked might indeed be acting inconsistently or hypocritically, this does not invalidate his argument.

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LOL @ this

If it was revealed in a thread that George Zimmerman was caught stealing from a store 5 years ago, there wouldn't be a soul talkin' about "b-b-but what that got to do with Trayvon's murder"....it would be nothing but further hate for him

Yet when it comes to Snowden, we're supposed to just "stick to the real issue" :heh:


2008:
Often the best source of information about waste, fraud, and abuse in government is an existing government employee committed to public integrity and willing to speak out. Such acts of courage and patriotism, which can sometimes save lives and often save taxpayer dollars, should be encouraged rather than stifled. We need to empower federal employees as watchdogs of wrongdoing and partners in performance. Barack Obama will strengthen whistleblower laws to protect federal workers who expose waste, fraud, and abuse of authority in government.

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LOL @ this

If it was revealed in a thread that George Zimmerman was caught stealing from a store 5 years ago, there wouldn't be a soul talkin' about "b-b-but what that got to do with Trayvon's murder"....it would be nothing but further hate for him

Yet when it comes to Snowden, we're supposed to just "stick to the real issue" :heh:

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