So 2016 will be history all over again either way, yes? Clinton vs. Rubio maybe?

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....i think the differences between christie, jindal, and bush vs west, bachman, santorum are very...very clear



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okay true but these three guys are mavericks.. the establishment gop was happy to have had Rick Santorum in its ranks for a long time.. Newt Gingrich too.. I just don't see some big "moderate GOP" vs "tea party" GOP split because the tea party GOP can easily cohabit with the "establishment" GOP... it's more like "maverick gop" vs "your average GOP"
 
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okay true but these three guys are mavericks.. the establishment gop was happy to have had Rick Santorum in its ranks for a long time.. Newt Gingrich too.. I just don't see some big "moderate GOP" vs "tea party" GOP split because the tea party GOP can easily cohabit with the "establishment" GOP... it's more like "maverick gop" vs "your average GOP"

But that's my point they have to change who they support and who they rally behind. It's quite evident what they are doing is not working, and if they rally around the people that I'm talking about then they have a chance of actually getting the White House back. We're arguing the same thing.


What is there to party or not honestly is not my concern I'm just talking about crazy versus regular. Jeb Bush isnt exactly a maverick


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What's gonna happen to Herman Cain? Can he/will he likely run again in 2016?
 

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the GOP just ran a moderate candidate for President. Granted ROmney was a stiff...but he was much closer in line with Christie, Jindal and the likes over kooks like Santorum and Bachman.

Its a matter of those types openly breaking away from the southern establishment that are living in the 1800's.

Christie seemed to make a lot of fans on the left over the past 2 weeks but Id argue he's more conservative than Mitt is.
 

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There is no future for the GOP. If the Democrats are free thinking and progressive, they should start groom and prepare for the next generation o a great candidate. Someone from Gen X that can match the changing demographics.
 

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Elizabeth Warren

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Ask a Latino if they would vote for Marco, they probably give you the:rudy:
 

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McCain ran at 76 tho. :manny:


who are those, if i may? i don't know much about politics...just curious.
I just can't see democrats rallying behind someone that old...with older views

But maybe if she does run republicans will vote democrat because of it :ohhh:

You might be on to something.
 
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