so fast food workers are walking off the job today

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However this ends, whether they get paid $15 hr or $8.25 hr, when I want to go and grab some :flabbynsick: fast food, the price on dat meal better be right

You'd pay a couple of cents more. You should really consider eating locally, though.
 

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I was defending ... evidence...
You don't have any evidence.

Did you pick up on that? :heh:

while you were giving your asinine opinion saying that it was irrelevant.
it IS irrelevant.

Why the fukk should the minimum wage get raised to some value like $15/hr?

Now you've abandoned this indefensible position to talk about policy over time and I'm going to address this even more benign point.
Indefensible? The hell?

Son all you did was demonstrate shyt I already knew. The value of the dollar is dropping, energy expenditure has remained relatively stagnant (might be calling SLIGHT BS on that one), and that the CPI has been going up...

and?

What's that got to do with the minimum wage of unskilled labor?

The state is subsidizing people who work full time on minimum wage. Point blank period.
You think that'll stop with a new minimum wage?

It is impossible to work for minimum wage and not recieve some kind of state subsidy.
have you ever considered the fact that those at the bottom would probably usually be using state subsidies? :leostare:
In real terms, the state is covering the cost for these unlivable low wages.
I don't think the minimum wage would change that. I seriously don't.
The corporations are externalizing the cost of business onto the taxpayer and this is the main reason why the minimum wage must rise.
Duh. I'm not against a rise, I'm against anything more than something like $9-10/hr.

Heres what you don't get. I've already said I'd support a raise...but nothing SUPER extreme like a doubling of that wage. Cause thats fukking ridiculous.

I'll state this again, I don't see the minimum wage as a means of subsistence, but a protection against exploitation.

Again, only about 2-3% of workers even MAKE minimum wage. So that means with a new floor, after an adjustment period, we can expect maybe a little more than 2-3% to still rely on that minimum wage since the higher wages will force some people out of the market...but its still only affecting what percentage of workers? Not even 5% maybe.

Not some stupid moral argument you keep boxing me into. I did not once say any kind of innate argument.

Actually, you've kept inferring this innate argument of yours since all you could do was drop some graphs in from the USA Today or whatever think tank you favor and then read me the axis's like I couldn't figure that out myself. :comeon:

Oh...look! The CPI is rising! Therefore raise the minimum wage! :troll:

Chill son.

I get it. You wanna help out everyone in society...but I don't see what this raise in wages is going to do for them since the government will end up having to subsidize a great deal more of them.

If your goal is to stave off price increases (and i know you'll quote something about how prices don't increase dramatically with wage increases) then you wont do that by raising the minimum wage.

Price discrimination (i.e. institutionalized classism) is probably the source of all of that inability to pay for what you deem "essential" things, since you forget that we have more essentials than the avg. 1930s american.

You ain't gonna fix that by demanding workers to get paid a little bit more.

What's your goal here? To minimize government reliance? To increase corporate responsibility? To reduce poverty? To increase the circulation of money?

The minimum wage is not the immediate answer IMO.
 

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You'd pay a couple of cents more. You should really consider eating locally, though.

I don't eat out much anymore, but when I do, I do actually eat at local spots and I'll pay whatever I think the food and service is worth.

When it comes to Mcdonald's or whatever, when you say an extra couple of cents, it better be a few pennies, a nickle or dime and not a quarter :smugdraper:

Chick-fil-a can have my quarters tho :noah:
 

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$15 an hour is not going to stop government subsidies for these familes. Sorry.
 

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$15 an hour is not going to stop government subsidies for these familes. Sorry.

Not stop but definitely bridge the gap. I think both me, Napoleon and Brokewave all agree that a minimum income is better? You are out of your league little lady.
 

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I didn't disagree that a minimum income is needed though lol
 

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I think they should get paid more. They are on their feet the entire duration and they are CONSTANTLY moving and DOING something. I always think about how stressful such a job could be.
 
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