HollowPoints2
Don Makaveli.
Corporations are gonna have to take a hit in the pocket either through the minimum wage hike or by reducing the cost of living.
It's going to be one or the other.
So it begins- Wendy's To Switch To Self Ordering and Automation To Avoid $15/hr Wage hike
- Thread starter Deadpool1986
- Start date
It's going to be one or the other.
I wouldn't say that. Any one who has worked in Fast Food has seen that even at lower wages they will cut your hours with the quickness. There is volatilityAnyone not bringing up Folks trying to live off a Fast Food gig and only focusing on the pay is an idiot. The issue is lack of job industry for non white collar workers. These low end jobs were not designed to support a family. You have people going to college/trade school to make 18-20 bucks why does an unskilled worker deserve 15 bucks? That now degrades even more the incentive to go to school or pick up a trade. And dont even mention how many of these workers aren't even good at doing unskilled work which makes universal pay increase comical when the avg person can think of numerous times these people screw up (minus Chick Fil A)
in the Fast Food industry that makes EVEN a win of $15 a temporary solution, but it puts a few more dollars in their pockets.
If you are in a trade, you have hours, and at least the possibility benefits. This is a very important distinction. Who is gonna quit their HVAC job to hope to get more than
20 hours at a fast-food joint
Unless you haven't worked in fast food, even you should know this. People ain't working 2-3 jobs these days for fun.
thekidvoodoo
8-bit
This was coming anyway. Wendy's gotta hold this neg for selling lies and acting like paying people fairly is why they're chasing dollars with automation.
aXiom
Maximized Potential
Breh.. everyone can't be.. society would never be able to function this way.. it's like saying everyone should be a leader.. $15/hr reflects the current cost of living, just like $8/hr was fine 20 years ago. Yet, everyone is mad at minimum wage workers and make them out to be greedy or entitled... they have no qualms with being underpaid themselves just as long of those "lazy minimum wage fukkers" stay at the bottom where they belong... it's the mindset that pisses me off, the fact that they don't realize they're also in the same boat.
A sudden bump to $15 would be drastic, yes, and there a lot more variables to it.. $10 is a start, but $15 is where it should be in most areas.. anyone that says $15 is too much is fukking retarded.
That being said.. there's a lot more to it that just minimum wage workers.. there's a lot of people above minimum wage doing work that can be easily replaced by an algorithm. It just so happens that those at the bottom are gonna feel the effects of automation first... there's nothing pretty about what's coming. The way we think about work and life is gonna change drastically.
Some of these guys are sounding like the elite they claim to hate with "Just work harder" rhetoric they aways spill in these types of threads.I wouldn't say that. Any one who has worked in Fast Food has seen that even at lower wages they will cut your hours with the quickness. There is volatility
in the Fast Food industry that makes EVEN a win of $15 a temporary solution, but it puts a few more dollars in their pockets.
If you are in a trade, you have hours, and at least the possibility benefits. This is a very important distinction. Who is gonna quit their HVAC job to hope to get more than
20 hours at a fast-food joint
I agree $15 should be the goal. BUT not a mandatory given. If I was making $10 flipping burgers, I would be getting the other $5 somewhere else is all.
Im from a country with this though
And everything costs like double there, so I have that appreciation for making it from the bootstraps on your own accord. My viewpoint is NOT from an American born person who expects Jordans, and Nightclubbing and IG adventures every weekend. Plus getting WIC, EBT, free cellphones, daycare and Government handouts.
Like Boyce Watkins says the Government is your daddy in this system.
I wonder if Reincar feels like me, cuz his Jamaican roots...
I dont think you understood my post.I wouldn't say that. Any one who has worked in Fast Food has seen that even at lower wages they will cut your hours with the quickness. There is volatility
in the Fast Food industry that makes EVEN a win of $15 a temporary solution, but it puts a few more dollars in their pockets.
If you are in a trade, you have hours, and at least the possibility benefits. This is a very important distinction. Who is gonna quit their HVAC job to hope to get more than
20 hours at a fast-food joint
America has no job industry for unskilled workers. Back in the day you could get a job in a factory and support your fam, it was hard work but it paid the bills. Those jobs are gone, now people are working jobs meant for HS kids. Now HS kids can't get part time jobs thus turn to doing illegal stuff. I remember in HS everyone wanted to work at a Shoe store, now why would a shoe store hire a kid, when they can hire an adult for the same pay, that has a car and can work odd hours? People should not be working at Popeyes in a non management role to support a family point blank, if you think this is normal or fine you are part of the problem. Many fast food spots have tuition reimbursement programs, that a lot of folks dont take advantage of. Point black the Job industry in America sucks, there is no middle ground, the high paying jobs require so much experience that there are no entry level positions for to even get the experience, and on the middle ground there is no decent industry where people who aren't as smart can make a decent living to support their fam, now common sense will tell you dont start a fam if you can't even support yourself, but life happens.
SireSiah#KWU
Mark 2:16-17
Paycuts huh?
This Wendy's exec in particular talking about cutting people heads off to prevent from paying the increased minimum wage because it will cost more.
I wonder if these exec paycuts you talking about in danger of putting them in poverty or putting their companies in danger.
Maybe one less Benz a yr or something vain.
Paycuts sounds like
to me
There going to regret sayin that on the sales call possibly...most Wendy's customers want a 15.00 pay raise...people will eat elsewhere just cuz of thisLOL. They're willing to automate the cashier and spend that money to then renovate all these locations instead of a pay raise.
Like why not pay the increase and increase prices of the food...why cut jobs...they'll regret taking this angle on this
Th3G3ntleman
Superstar
The beginning of the rebellion of the middle/lower class if this automation shyt starts spreading.
Why do people act like $15 is a lot of money when it really isn't?
- blackierobinson
- blackierobinson
Don't worry because on the technology they are using today is going to backfire.
There going to regret sayin that on the sales call possibly...most Wendy's customers want a 15.00 pay raise...people will eat elsewhere just cuz of this
Like why not pay the increase and increase prices of the food...why cut jobs...they'll regret taking this angle on this
you do understand the upfront cost of renovating stores is far less overall than the cost of keeping employees right?
Machines have low overhead cost compared to humans.
And Nobody eats bottom barrel fast food spots anymore, you have Casual Fast Food spots like Shake Shack that cost more, uses better ingredients and pay their employees more. Companies like Micky Ds are seeing losses for the first time because less people want to eat their and now you have people wanting more pay, lol Point of a business is to make profits, social responsibility is not , and when you work for someone you can't demand them to do a damn thing as they pay you what they feel you are worth and it is not government aid.
Your post said it degrades the incentive to go to school for a trade or something similar. This is along the same lines as "welfare queens" that people talk about, or people
living high off of unemployment (something that person has paid into to eventually receive, though no one ever mentions that.)
No one is going to trade meaningful employment for Fast Food jobs. It just won't happen in numbers. I agree though, automation, outsourcing, and labor arbitrage has ravaged
the American economy and its living on borrowed time now. I was simply pointing out that no one out here is trading steady work for a modest pay bump that will pay
less in the long run.
And hell idk why y'all are surprised, look at the banking industry. They have been prepping us FOR YEARS. You have people who work as tellers for 20+ yrs and haven't tried to become managers, yet make 20+ bucks as a teller just off of raises. Now you can deposit checks on your phone. I literally have only been into a bank 3 times in 20 yrs.