So now Covid is over cause everyone said it's over?

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The thing I learned from all this is that humans in the 21st century are absolute scum, bottom of the barrel. People alive today are probably the weakest and softest humans since the beginning of recorded history. Not an ounce of character and moral fibre.

When you get an order from the state at a time of crisis, you're supposed to just shut up and obey. Set aside any reservations you may have and just do what is asked of you for the greater good. At a time of crisis the greater good is the most important thing, it's far more important than individual freedoms and civil and constitutional rights and whatever else. It's not a normal situation, it's a fukking crisis. The important thing is to ride it out and emerge unscathed on the other side, and then we can have the normal freedoms and rights restored.

Humanity has understood this throughout our entire history, up until the 21st century. People got this even as recently the 20th century. In the World Wars.

In the second World War in Britain they had strict curfews, they had food rationing, they had fuel rationing. They even had light rationing. You literally weren't allowed to light your house at night, it was illegal because if you lit up your house, and your whole street lit their lights, and the whole neighbourhood did the same, and the whole city did the same, then the Wehrmacht, the Nazi Air Force, would know exactly where to drop their bombs. If everything stayed dark then they would just be guessing. There was no satellite navigation or GPS or guided missiles back then. You only knew where you were as a pilot by looking out the window. You dropped your bomb on a target only if you had a visual on the target. No light, no visual.

Civil rights, constitutional rights, and individual freedoms are luxuries. They mean nothing when your country is under attack by an enemy. The people must come together and agree to suspend those rights and freedoms until the crisis is past and until you've won the war.

Britain would never have won the war if its people didn't make those enormous sacrifices for the greater good. Yes they got a lot of help from the USSR and the USA. But that help would have counted for nothing if the citizens ignored the government rules, if they failed to obey all the restrictions that were asked of them. It was a collective social effort of sacrifice, because they understood that the situation was so serious that freedoms had to be suspended.

Imagine today's generation in the second World War. We would be fukking pathetic. There would be millions of protestors ignoring every single government order because of MuH FrEeDoMs. Every fukking light would be turned on. There would be millions of people saying the war is a hoax. There would be millions more saying it's a government conspiracy. Etc.

If Hitler had to fight 2021 humanity he would conquer the whole world in a couple of weeks, just like coronavirus did. We can't even wear masks and get injections, we can't even make the most basic and easy sacrifices for the greater good. Imagine us dealing with rationing and with not being allowed to light up our houses.

At this point, if 1.5 million American people dying from coronavirus didn't wake up America, nothing will. Instant gratification already doomed collective bargaining, and it will doom us in changing our ways.
 

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in general the majority of people here still wearing masks in the store, which is all i really care about for my own immediate experience/personal health.

once they stop doing that, if i really feel like we in the danger zone of another variant or some shyt, i'll start using instacart again.


i'm still avoiding large events til further notice, but it does feel like if we don't get another crazy variant we might be approaching the end.,. i will still stay vaxxed and what not and if my job ever tries to demand i return to the office regularly :mjlol:

but really all we can really do is look out for ourselves now, capitalisms gon capitalism :yeshrug:
 
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It’s been over in Texas for half a year or more. Nobody wears masks, everybody is going out. You wouldn’t know it was a pandemic at all, if not for the news. I’m fully vaccinated and boosted, but only wear a mask when in crowded stores like Walmart.

At first I thought Texas was being stupid for all this, but I have no problem with it; it’s fine. If you don’t want to get vaccinated, then you assume the risk.

My company is letting me work from home permanently. I’m also an introvert. Covid isolation didn’t affect me like others. If anything, having an excuse to not go out was pretty great. I know that’s not normal though.
 

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They politicized it following Trump. That's the crazy thing about it.

The whole world followed him into this madness. It's his fault and our fault for letting him be elected.

We were told that elections don't matter and it doesn't matter who the president of the United States is, not realizing that that position is called Leader of the Free World for a reason.

The whole world takes their cue from America.

When they saw Trump politicize Covid, other countries followed him.

We had a total fool in office and we're paying the consequences, all of us. If Hillary was president, Covid would have been over in a year worldwide because she wouldn't have politicized it and pretended it was a hoax. She would have listened to the scientists and the entire world would have followed her lead.

Donald Trump really led the entire world to ruin. An utter complete fool led humanity to the brink of annihilation.

Man.... I'm about to rejoin the Democrat set, I'm so mad thinking about this.

I don't think Trump was that influential on the world. Frankly a lot of world leaders in 2020 and still today were and are terrible. Boris Johnson in the UK, Scott Morrison in Australia, they were already ignoring it and dismissing it as a threat even before Trump was. Bolsonaro in Brazil too. It got politicised before Trump because that's just where human culture is at in the 21st century. Any issue that's in the public interest, whether that's climate change or public health policy, instantly becomes politicised. Trump is a symptom of it not a cause.

I think to look for the ultimate cause you've got to go back to the 80s and look at people like Ronald Reagan and Magaret Thatcher. They created our modern culture of making everything political, they invented the "culture wars." And they also created anti-government sentiment: they did that by privatising everything and constantly publicly stating that government was bad, inefficient, and corrupt; that the private sector would always achieve everything better than the government could. So they started the whole process of eroding public trust in government.

We're seeing now the effects of 40 years of anti-government propaganda created by Reagan and Thatcher. People don't trust government because we've all been told for the past 40 years how much better corporations are than governments at achieving things.
 
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If we're gonna keep it a buck.. masks shouldn't come off, even then. I guarantee the CDC laxed the mask shyt because of crybabies like you.. bytching and moaning about wearing a piece of fukkin cloth over your mouth.

So they said, take it off when eating/drinking and put it right back on.

You were supposed to have a mask on in the supermarkets. And hand sanitizer.. but if masks are this big of a deal to you, i can only imagine how triggered you got when somebody asked you to wash your hands, and/or use sanitizer.

Ole nasty ass.. :scust:

Folks be tellin' on themselves all da time regarding their hygienic practices. Keep in mind, back in da beginning, folks actually had to be taught how to wash their fukkin' hands.
 

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If we're gonna keep it a buck.. masks shouldn't come off, even then. I guarantee the CDC laxed the mask shyt because of crybabies like you.. bytching and moaning about wearing a piece of fukkin cloth over your mouth.

So they said, take it off when eating/drinking and put it right back on.

You were supposed to have a mask on in the supermarkets. And hand sanitizer.. but if masks are this big of a deal to you, i can only imagine how triggered you got when somebody asked you to wash your hands, and/or use sanitizer.

Ole nasty ass.. :scust:


The same people who don’t wanna wear masks probably not even hygienic in the first place. Bunch of dirty ass no washing hands ass people :scust:
 

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It's over in the sense that the pandemic phase is shifting over to the endemic phase.

We are going to have to live with it.

what does that mean? haven't we been living with it?

All of us will catch it at some point. Eventually it will be categorised as the common cold, similar to rhinoviruses and the 4 other known coronaviruses circulating that we've encountered as endemic over human existence.

This one being novel, will eventually be categorised as such and follow the trajectory of past coronaviruses.

how long did the "common cold" take to shift from pandemic to endemic?

long covid debilitating millions, heart problems even in asymptomatic cases ... how is that like other coronaviruses?

what makes coronaviruses

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... in da chamber ... :hhh:
 
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