So those who actually saw the Butler...

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and aren't just blindly hating on it, what did you think? I was pleasantly surprised.

my post from another thread...*SPOILERS*

they definitely didn't shy away from the racism blacks experienced during the 60s. a few scenes in there were pretty raw, especially the freedom rider scenes. made you fully appreciate what they really went through

they didn't demonize the son, even when he went through his militant phase. in fact, for the most part, the film depicts him in a good light while showing how his father was being stubborn in his refusal to understand why he was doing what he was doing. nice moment at the end when the Butler acknowledges that his son is a hero, even though he initially believed he was a criminal

they didn't make the Butler a saint. they established at the beginning why he felt the need to be subservient but later on in the movie they actually show how conflicted he felt, especially when he's invited to the White House dinner

they taught me a bit of a lesson. I've always viewed maids and butlers as strictly mammies and uncle toms. but while it definitely showed how problematic it was, they also did a good job of showing that there was some dignity in their work and that there was a bit of empowerment in it, but in a different, more subtle way

very good portrayal of Nixon. in fact, of all the presidents he felt the most accurate as far as his private interactions

my issues with the film:

they didn't give the Panthers a fair depiction imo. it wasn't over the top but it wasn't as in depth as it should've been, especially when they spent so much time on the freedom riders. they did a good job of showing why the son would make the transition to the panthers and they touched on the way in which the government targeted them, but in the end they fell into the simple narrative of the Panthers being violent extremists, which I found to be the most disappointing aspect of the film. seemed like they didn't wanna go too deep for fear of scaring the white audience away.

the Obama nuthugging at the end was a little too over the top

a lot of it had a Forrest Gump feel to it, the way it just kind of went through historical events in an episodic way. kind of lessened the emotional impact for me

had a lot of powerful moments but also a lot of moments that were clearly put in there for Oscar season. at times it felt like a movie that was trying to win an Oscar
 

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I'm so disappointed in this movie and the fact that it made $101 million dollars. White people don't go to see movies about black people. Fukk outta here :beli: They'll go see movies about black people just fine. As long as the characters in the story aren't powerful, intelligent and capable. It has to be some we shall overcome sh*t.



I bootlegged this because I wasn't giving my money to it. The entire film the father demonized his son and the blacks who were down south in the trenches of the Civil Rights movement.....his son was down south on the freedom rides, being spit on in restaurants, having dogs sicked on him, having their bus burned down (I read about those incidents in class but, to see it visually just made me more upset) and Forest Whitaker was basically like its your fault for causing trouble :ufdup:......for real brah :what: Forest Whitaker's character really said at one point..."why are you down there making trouble, son? the white man is trying to make things better for us." :what: They completely sh*tted on the Black Panthers. When his son joined the BPP, the dad straight up threw him out the house and called his girl a low class b*tch. All because they wanted defend themselves against racist whites. And in the context of this film, this was right after Martin Luther King had gotten his brains splattered across his hotel room. Fukk this c00n azz movie. I knew this would be a piece of garbage. The very first scene, a white female slave master told the butler, who a little kid, that she'd teach him how to be a good house nikka :rudy: in a movie about being a servant and a butler :rudy:




Fukk this movie. Fukk Oprah and her mammy ass for always supporting these types of films too. B*tch...you a billionaire. Use your resources to display us in a better light. I'm bout to go watch Malcolm X and forget I ever saw this.
 
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yall do realize that this is based on that man's life right...this cat really existed....it wasnt a story about the panthers...or freedom riders...it was about the butler...

so his story shouldnt be told becuz yall feel it sends the wrong message?

im lost here...whats the problem?
 

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yall do realize that this is based on that man's life right...this cat really existed....it wasnt a story about the panthers...or freedom riders...it was about the butler...

so his story shouldnt be told becuz yall feel it sends the wrong message?

im lost here...whats the problem?

That there's no balance? That movies like the one about the Haitian Revolution that Danny Glover wanted to make can't get funded (unless there's a white hero), but movies portraying black folk to be bowing down in 2013 seem to be getting churned out all the time
 

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I'm so disappointed in this movie and the fact that it made $101 million dollars. White people don't go to see movies about black people. Fukk outta here :beli: They'll go see movies about black people just fine. As long as the characters in the story aren't powerful, intelligent and capable. It has to be some we shall overcome sh*t.



I bootlegged this because I wasn't giving my money to it. The entire film the father demonized his son and the blacks who were down south in the trenches of the Civil Rights movement.....his son was down south on the freedom rides, being spit on in restaurants, having dogs sicked on him, having their bus burned down (I read about those incidents in class but, to see it visually just made me more upset) and Forest Whitaker was basically like its your fault for causing trouble :ufdup:......for real brah :what: Forest Whitaker's character really said at one point..."why are you down there making trouble, son? the white man is trying to make things better for us." :what: They completely sh*tted on the Black Panthers. When his son joined the BPP, the dad straight up threw him out the house and called his girl a low class b*tch. All because they wanted defend themselves against racist whites. And in the context of this film, this was right after Martin Luther King had gotten his brains splattered across his hotel room. Fukk this c00n azz movie. I knew this would be a piece of garbage. The very first scene, a white female slave master told the butler, who a little kid, that she'd teach him how to be a good house nikka :rudy: in a movie about being a servant and a butler :rudy:




Fukk this movie. Fukk Oprah and her mammy ass for always supporting these types of films too. B*tch...you a billionaire. Use your resources to display us in a better light. I'm bout to go watch Malcolm X and forget I ever saw this.

LOL I had a feeling that's what it was gonna be. I won't even bother to download it.
 
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yall do realize that this is based on that man's life right...this cat really existed....it wasnt a story about the panthers...or freedom riders...it was about the butler...

so his story shouldnt be told becuz yall feel it sends the wrong message?

im lost here...whats the problem?

Yo do realize the second son that the father had all these altercations with never existed in real life right. That the story is a loose adaptation of the real man's life right. And Lee c00n Daniels is the same man that says :White people can love us and still call us ******s:

In short fukk this movie
 
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I KNEW that film was set up to shyt all over the black Panther movement. I will NEVER give a movie my money that inaccurately portrays what the Panthers stood for or their impact on our culture.


And people are saying that this "based upon a true story" bullshyt deserves merit. Let me ask, WHY exactly is a story centered around black subservience suddenly so important in 2013? What EXACT message are we sending with this film? This man wasn't Malcolm X nor was he Martin Luther King levels of civil rights struggle and leadership. He was a man who served powerful white men their dinner, what exact praise or pride should be glistened from that?


Next year we'll have Michael Mann's The Janitor starring Cuba Gooding as a sanitation worker for an all white country club whom through whose eyes we get to experience the controversy surrounding the Trayvon Martin case:stopitslime:
 

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Let's see the help, the butler... No problem getting movies made where black people are subservient. Thinly veiled as some inspirational crap.

Let me see a movie about Jack Johnson or any such figure not these fukking chump ass feel good simple minded characters that need cacs to guide their actions. Pathetic.

What's next the farm hand lol fukk outta here
 
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I liked the movie. The fictional son and his stories were shown to give a visual on how the Butler guy felt about the movements at the time and how he eventually realized those people were just as important to creating change in society as the presidents he worked for. He didn't think they were trouble makers per say, he thought they were throwing away their lives because the white people would kill them and nothing would happen. Remember this is a man who grew up in a time period where that was true as his mom was raped repeatedly and his dad was killed for even insinuating it was a problem.

But I will say I'm third of seeing movies where black people are servants. I only went to see this because my girl saw Pacific Rim with me and I owed her. It was a package deal.
 
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Let's see the help, the butler... No problem getting movies made where black people are subservient. Thinly veiled as some inspirational crap.

Let me see a movie about Jack Johnson or any such figure not these fukking chump ass feel good simple minded characters that need cacs to guide their actions. Pathetic.

What's next the farm hand lol fukk outta here

:wow: at a Jack Johnson flick. They are having a hard time getting a James Brown film made, so I doubt we'll get to see Jack anytime soon :to:
 

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movie was good....i embraced the story and felt it was told in an honest and direct manner i could appreciate having to deal with our history in America...told through the eyes of a c00n....

not goin into the "whitey don't watch our movies...kill CACS yadayadayada".....

2 fingaz!
 

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:wow: at a Jack Johnson flick. They are having a hard time getting a James Brown film made, so I doubt we'll get to see Jack anytime soon :to:
They seem to have a hard time getting backing for any black film of substance. How can u not be able to make a decent James brown flick :what:
 

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my dad bootlegged it, said he got to the point where the white guy raped the black woman and he just turned the movie off.
 
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