So...What the fukk Happened? :patrice:

[Liquid]

Exactly.....that is the enitre point of moderators. If people feel that the forum is getting bogged down by certain people...then handle that. Don't inconvenience everyone else. This nikka @cook talking about it wasn't a deciding factor but they shammed the vote. This shyt is ridiculous. Why vote at all if it wasn't going to make a difference? Growing support my ass. The main people I see cosigning this crap I don't even see them ever in The Arcadium. SMH @ dumb nikkas.

I've TRIED, there is nothing a mod can do if thread making privileges are not stripped.

Me being the only active mod only made things worse...I can't babysit the select few 24/7/365

And yes, Trolling is what caused this stupid split in the first place. Its the leader/follower argument. If head troll gets away with it...the others will start to make threads as they see no consequences for the BS. It all snowballed from there.

 

[el_oh_el]

its been proposed dozen of times over the past 2 years, what made this proposal different? The stan wars have been around since SOHH days so it cant be because of that and if its not because of the voting, because we KNOW that shyt was rigged as fukk... so what was different this time ?

Im sure we will get no answers.

 

[61 Corpses]

I've TRIED, there is nothing a mod can do if thread making privileges are not stripped.

Me being the only active mod only made things worse...I can't babysit the select few 24/7/365

And yes, Trolling is what caused this stupid split in the first place. Its the leader/follower argument. If head troll gets away with it...the others will start to make threads as they see no consequences for the BS. It all snowballed from there.

I feel you breh, but if you cant strip thread making privileges you can atleast throw those threads in The Bushes

 

[The Phoenix]

I've TRIED, there is nothing a mod can do if thread making privileges are not stripped.

Me being the only active mod only made things worse...I can't babysit the select few 24/7/365

And yes, Trolling is what caused this stupid split in the first place. Its the leader/follower argument. If head troll gets away with it...the others will start to make threads as they see no consequences for the BS. It all snowballed from there.

What though? What happened that was so bad it needed to split? I'm no where near as active on this board as I was on the other one, but when I am on, yes there are some stupid threads here and there but nothing that warranted a split. Were people complaining? Look how many people are in here wanting it to go back. Clearly the people that were actually in the Arcadium don't think it needed to split. So why do it? I would understand if there were a long list of DOCUMENTED complaints.

And then the poll. Thats what really pisses me off. It's as if they thought they would have everyone on board....that didn't happen.....so they pulled some ole George Bush in Florida circa 2000 bullshyt. It's ridiculous.

 

[Ain't That Something]

Ya'll nikkas can stay mad

Maybe if you fukkers didn't spam the fukk out the arcadium with dumb shyt this would never have happened. The film room is what the people needed

 

[Liquid]

I feel you breh, but if you cant strip thread making privileges you can atleast throw those threads in The Bushes

I put several things in specific threads, assigned reports to others to view....end result? Not much. I am not babysitting a section because a simple action could not be taken against a select few.

Trust that nothing I did was going to work until something drastic happened. It finally did...and now people are upset.

 

[Rayzah]

What though? What happened that was so bad it needed to split? I'm no where near as active on this board as I was on the other one, but when I am on, yes there are some stupid threads here and there but nothing that warranted a split. Were people complaining? Look how many people are in here wanting it to go back. Clearly the people that were actually in the Arcadium don't think it needed to split. So why do it? I would understand if there were a long list of DOCUMENTED complaints.

And then the poll. Thats what really pisses me off. It's as if they thought they would have everyone on board....that didn't happen.....so they pulled some ole George Bush in Florida circa 2000 bullshyt. It's ridiculous.

What is it that you think would have been gained by this? What did y'all lose that makes this such a bad idea?

 

[The Phoenix]

What is it that you think would have been gained by this? What did y'all lose that makes this such a bad idea?

It's the principle. Don't have a vote, lose, then say it didn't matter. It makes it seem like there was an agenda. Which is stupid because why the fukk would there need to be an agenda for a subforum?

 

[Liquid]

What though? What happened that was so bad it needed to split? I'm no where near as active on this board as I was on the other one, but when I am on, yes there are some stupid threads here and there but nothing that warranted a split. Were people complaining? Look how many people are in here wanting it to go back. Clearly the people that were actually in the Arcadium don't think it needed to split. So why do it? I would understand if there were a long list of DOCUMENTED complaints.

And then the poll. Thats what really pisses me off. It's as if they thought they would have everyone on board....that didn't happen.....so they pulled some ole George Bush in Florida circa 2000 bullshyt. It's ridiculous.

Oh I understand where you are coming from...the majority of people that post here regularly did not want this split.

As far as complaints? Some have been calling for this split for years, but they are not nearly as active as the ones who participate in this forum. People who do not participate in this forum as much should not have this kind of swaying power to make a change that would anger the majority of those who participate here daily. The votes initially proved that.

Personally? I don't really care which "forum" is the head forum of the tech/entertainment space...I just think that they need to be under one roof as its beneficial for people to navigate through both sections because of the similar interests. The TSC argument was that since it became a sub-forum it would die...I see no evidence of that. The "Arcadium" or "The Film Room" will be better off as a sub-forum instead of a regular main forum on the index to go along with its other half. Both don't have enough activity on their own to hold their own...one will be looking at Higher Learning levels of activity...which is no bueno for the forum overall.

We will see how it all plays out.

 

[infamousred]

wtf? only legit reason i could see is so people won't have to sift through the "console wars" threads. otherwise one forum works perfectly fine for entertainment. it's just weird seeing this coming from to here.

 

[The Phoenix]

As far as complaints? Some have been calling for this split for years

We will see how it all plays out.

That's another thing I don't get. I've been apart of these forums since 2002 and I mean consistently. I've never heard of this. Who were these individuals that have been so concerned about the welfare of The Rec Room aka The Arcadium? I rarely go to the man hip hop forum. But everytime I do, I see random fukkery like Nas lost or Jay lost and on and on and on without fail. I've never seen the Jay/Nas lost idiots ushered out of there into some random off shoot forum or the forum split because of those people. I just don't get why it's happening here. Especially the lack of consultation with the patrons. And as Winb pointed out.....the problem, if there is one, still hasn't been solved. It's just bad business.....but oh well....I've said what I had to say. I'm done with this shyt.

 

[Rayzah]

Oh I understand where you are coming from...the majority of people that post here regularly did not want this split.

As far as complaints? Some have been calling for this split for years, but they are not nearly as active as the ones who participate in this forum. People who do not participate in this forum as much should not have this kind of swaying power to make a change that would anger the majority of those who participate daily. The votes initially proved that.

Personally? I don't really care which "forum" is the head forum of the tech/entertainment space...I just think that they need to be under one roof as its beneficial for people to navigate through both sections because of the similar interests. The TSC argument was that since it became a sub-forum it would die...I see no evidence of that. The "Arcadium" or "The Film Room" will be better off as a sub-forum instead of a regular main forum on the index to go along with its other half. Both don't have enough activity on their own to hold their own...one will be looking at Higher Learning levels of activity...which is no bueno for the forum overall.

We will see how it all plays out.

I think the so called regulars have a false sense of entitlement about this, fact is even tho the yes votes didn't post as much as y'all doesn't mean I don't view the threads and participate when I can.. I'm a supporter of this forum and have been here pretty much since the beginning my vote and opinion should count just as much as y'all that are more active..

 

[Liquid]

I think the so called regulars have a false sense of entitlement about this, fact is even tho the yes votes didn't post as much as y'all doesn't mean I don't view the threads and participate when I can.. I'm a supporter of this forum and have been here pretty much since the beginning my vote and opinion should count just as much as y'all that are more active..

BUT YOU WERE IN THE MINORITY. So not only were you in the minority...you also had cats who did not participate much in the section anyway...don't let that poll fool you.

It's a basic slap in the face to people who considered this their favorite section on the coli and helped it grow since the great split from projectcovo. You've already had people claim that they bookmark the arcadium and that's it...I am sure they will be happy to know that a botched vote was taken place and they had no say in it...supporters just like you.

The problem here was moderation and if you want to throw my hat in there fine, my only defense is that I had no help.

 

[The Phoenix]

I think the so called regulars have a false sense of entitlement about this, fact is even tho the yes votes didn't post as much as y'all doesn't mean I don't view the threads and participate when I can.. I'm a supporter of this forum and have been here pretty much since the beginning my vote and opinion should count just as much as y'all that are more active..

Agreed...but give everyone an opportunity to vote. You wanted it one way, and it didn't happen, so when the voting swung in your favor it was closed. That's BS. Don't have the voting at all if that's the case.

And to be quite honest. Those people who spend more time in that place should be entitled. Everyone who visits this site and spends time here instead of on IGN's or Gamespots message boards supports this site. Pulling the rug out from under them is just as bad as having some idiot run wild posting nonsense. So don't punish those who want it one way. All I'm saying is, give everyone a say. If everyone has a chance to vote and they vote to split. I'm cool with that.

 

[cook]

What though? What happened that was so bad it needed to split? I'm no where near as active on this board as I was on the other one, but when I am on, yes there are some stupid threads here and there but nothing that warranted a split. Were people complaining? Look how many people are in here wanting it to go back. Clearly the people that were actually in the Arcadium don't think it needed to split. So why do it? I would understand if there were a long list of DOCUMENTED complaints.

And then the poll. Thats what really pisses me off. It's as if they thought they would have everyone on board....that didn't happen.....so they pulled some ole George Bush in Florida circa 2000 bullshyt. It's ridiculous.

what the fukk are you even talking about? did I make the poll? did i ever say the poll was going to decide what happens? no, it was a regular member who proposed the idea and it spawned an interesting debate that caught the eye of me and brooklynzson. it wasn't the votes that convinced us, it was the valid arguments that were being made. we ended the poll early because we had already made up our minds, hence me saying from the beginning the poll is cool and all but its not going to make a difference unless it was an absolute blowout. we're a rapidly growing forum, probably one of the fastest growing on the internet. we looked around at a bunch of other forums and they all have gaming and movies separated. we both agreed that eventually it was something that we would have to do, so why not try it now. even @Liquid who has been adamantly against this split admitted that it was something that eventually would need to be done.

is there overlap with gamers and movie/tv show fans? yes of course, but theres overlap with sports and music fans too (honestly, who doesn't enjoy movies/tv?) you guys are being so closed minded about this entire situation, its no wonder theres an equal amount of people rejoicing about never having to step foot in this forum again as there is of you bytching about this. yall are acting like you just drove 30 minutes through traffic to go to a store and found out they dont have what you need so you have to drive all the way back across town. the movie forum is like 2 clicks of a mouse away. is a little more inconvenient? yeah sure, but theres a bunch of other posters on here who found it inconvenient that everything was lumped together and while you guys clearly dont give two shyts about anyone but yourselves, as an admin of the entire board we like to consider everyone when we make decisions.

if you're a fan of shows/movies then how can you honestly hate on a forum thats dedicated to that? the threads are already more active in that forum than they were in here because theres a bunch of people who basically gave up and said fukk it because they didnt want to deal with this forum. (all those mysterious votes you guys think i rigged the poll with ) and on the flip side, im starting to see a new movement here in the arcadium that seems exciting. tournaments, leagues...more community involvement with each other in regards to gaming. if you can't see the possibility of these two forums striving and improving while being independent then i'm sorry we disappointed you. by all means continue to be miserable and bytch and moan and pray for the entire thing to fail.

and despite all the negative comments and anger you all have thrown my way, this very moment i'm talking to developers and looking into the possibility of adding a feature where members can basically make their own forum that will display threads from whichever existing forums they choose. so its possible (no guarantees yet) that maybe eventually you'll be able to recreate the old arcadium and view all gaming and movie/tv shows in one listing again.


now please stop tagging me to complain, ive been open and honest about the entire thing and ive said everything i can possibly say on this subject for the time being.