So why did Dame and Hov really fall out?

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  1. seymour cake

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    What's the real reason?

    I loved when they was together dame shaking the big bottles and hov right next to him.. It seemed like they was real close..

    I thought they would at least come back together and fukk wit each other after all these years..or at least do business.. Did Dame snake him that bad?
     
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    Why would Jay do business with Dame now? :scusthov:

    Just look at the results after the split. :huhldup:

    Jay was always a hustler, businessman, and rapper. Then and now. Nothing has changed on Jay's end.

    Make another Hov. :sas2:
     
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    What did Dame offer Jay that Jay couldn't do himself? That's the main thing. It's business. Dame eventually became a person that received a cut of the pie and Jay was like, I need his piece too. Jay has the respect of the peers, not Dame and his arrogant self. Jay has the aura around him, not Dame. When I worked in a hospital, I was a dope senior analyst. Patients didn't come to see me, they came to see the doctor. No one came for Dame or Biggs, they came for Jay. Classic case of Jay realizing his value and then he dropped some of the dead weight, Dame included.
     
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    Considering all the stories I've heard, they grew apart. One wanted to move left, one wanted to move right.
    So the split started around 2001 and finalized around 2004, you in the end of the 90s they were always together. In the 2000s there was a more often than not a Brooklyn/Jay faction and a Harlem/Dame faction.

    People forget that Jay didn't go partnerless after Roc-a-fella, he got a "new" partner in Jay Brown, promoted Tyty to partner and worked closer with "his people". It's obvious that he believes in partnership but as one can see Jay and his people are more of the same smooth, laid-back, move in a room full of vultures type of people that's why he and Biggs are back making moves. While Dame is more of a rebel/disruptor, in both a negative and positive sense. And a boss in his own right, he needs his freedom to do what he wants. And that could not be done with Jay having his freedom to move how he wanted.
     
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    Aaliyah
     
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    Always make me wonder as well

    I just assumed Jay got tired of Dame way of doing business and the way dame handled himself among others in the industry and telling motherfukkers with connections to fukk off
     
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    Jay wanted to move smarter ...dame was too stuck in his ways

    Always thought he was better than the others because he’s “from the culture”

    Jay elevated...dame went on trying to convince us he’s content off selling oil and his sons cookies
     
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    Jay was with Beyonce.
     
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    He was with Aaliyah before Dame allegedly.

    He got with B after Dame scooped the girl he really wanted.

    :gurl:
     
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    over Aliyah's roca wear fitted jacket..
     
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    Why would you assume Dame snaked Jay? :dwillhuh:

    The big issue is y’all look at this shyt completely wrong. I think fans think Dame and Jay grew up together or something. They came together in order to push a product (Reasonable Doubt, the music). They started on some business shyt, not on some homie shyt. And they came in the game with an exit strategy, it just so happened Jay’s career took off so they ran with the Roc wave. In reality the shyt lasted longer than it probably should have and certainly longer than I’m sure they anticipated.
     
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    This is also true, it was a business arrangement first that later grew to be a friendship. And it wasn't for very long time, it was like 24-25 years old to 32-33. Jay is like 50 now. Meaning taht he's been J. Coles boss longer than he and Dame were together.

    But we can't deny that they grew to become real friends, even if they perhaps didn't love each other as some of these other people did. But still crazy to see that all of these people still get together or work together. Jay, Biggs, Tyty, Gee Roberson, Lenny S, Chaka Pilgrim, Jay Brown, Juan and Des Perez, Hiphop Joshua, Clark Kent, Bleeek and the list is long. shyt is over 25 years over partnerships, must be rare in business.
     
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    Remember, Jay was gonna retire after Vol. 2. Focus on the business.

    He was gonna give the torch to Bleek.

    That is why Bleek had the solo intro over the Primo beat on Vol 2.

    The annie sample changed it all (Mark 45 King). :leon:
     

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