So why did Dame and Hov really fall out?

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    They won, the blew up they all got rich, what else is there to do? Is Dame suppose to take half of what Jay got for the rest of his life, this shyt is fukking ridiculous, Dame might as well call Jay daddy lmao
     
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    This is funny cause now Jay has a $100 million house in LA and a $20 million house in the Hamptons
     
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    Dames a narcissist. Its not hard to see ehy people don't wanna be around him
     
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    You right. Jay had part ownership, and was the star as well.

    Company assets? Tru return on investment assets? First and foremost Hov and his celebrity.

    When he's out, the company's out.
     
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    That's a funny way of looking at it but you're acting like Dame didn't pull his own weight with the company. They were business partners bro and they helped each other out.
     
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    That not the point dame did but was jay supposed to split his money forever?

    they been said the plan was to "flip" the company at a certain point

    and it was said dame was spending lots of money on private flights etc... and not reinvesting in the company and firing lots of jay's people behinf his back while he was gone


    and saying jay was "his" artist


    At a certain point that would make anyone say :francis:



    jay already said he should have tried harder to deal with dame but dame says he dont have NO blame :gucci:
     
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    Jay left and took a job at Def Jam.
     
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    What are you talking about Dame got paid his half of the company, the business venture was over ,they were business partners and they sold the company, what's the problem, I said they had a venture and it eneded which is what happened, Is Jay suppose to include Dame on every other venture just because they did rocaella, that's not how business works

    Also you don't know what dame did, tyty, hip hop, and jay original team still around him, biggs still does things jay, obviously dame wasn't that valuable to the situation
     
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    How could jay just leave?:gucci:


    how long was his contact that dame drew up?:ohhh:


    Jay was "his" artist right? :picard:







    :pachaha: Dame kills me the way he likes to take ownership of things when we all knew they was equal partners :martin:
     
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    :mjlol:
    Jay wanted to be a rapper his WHOLE life.
     
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    They sold the company to Def Jam, then Def Jam hired Jay has president and gave the Roc back to Jay lmao, Boss moves, Dame was never the Boss, him acting like the Boss got his ass kicked out the situation

    Jay still handing out Rocafella Chains lmao, while Dame talking about movies nobody seen lmao

    he was never the damn boss the loudest nikka in the room is always the weakest, always
     
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    Yep. It was the only way for Jay to receive all the royalty checks that he never cashed and Dame spent away
     
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    Don't bite the hand that feeds you. :manny:
     
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    Nah, actually I misspoke.

    I had to go back and remind myself how all that shyt went down.

    Dame, Biggs, and Jay were all equal partners.

    But Jay-Z the artist, was an artist on Roc-A-Fella Records and Dame had the title of CEO.

    I'm guessing that's why he sometimes refers to Jay as "his artist" depending on the topic of discussion.

    They all sold their joint 50% stake in Roc-A-Fella to Island Def Jam in like 2006 which gave Def Jam 100% ownership.

    Def Jam then offered Jay-Z the position as President of Def Jam, which gave him the power to control the artists still signed to Roc-A-Fella Records, and they gave him the rights to the master recordings of Reasonable Doubt to sweeten the pot and he took it.

    That's the plan Lyor hit Jay with and he ran with it.

    He gave up ownership to become a worker and retain the rights to his "baby" just to remove his partners and work strictly with Lyor and Kevin.

    After he ruined the careers of the other Def Jam flagship artists by not releasing their projects or putting in half ass work on them (ie. Red, Meth, X, Ghost, LL, etc.) he left the label and ended up getting the deal with Live Nation to create Roc Nation.
     
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