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If it's purely aesthetic, like CSGO skins, or Path of Exile costumes, IDC about micro-transactions.

Even something like TLOU, paying for animations...IDC about that...

Only time micro-transactions become an issue is for shyt like if you were palying a Zelda game and needed to pay to open chests and shyt like that. If it impedes the games journey, it's never gonna turn out good for the game in the long-run. Hearthstone seemed like a fun game at first, then nikkas paid for and opened 50 packs of cards and built decks a regular person couldn't in the same amount of time. That' shytty.

IDK much about H1Z1 so I can't speak on it, but if the micro-transactions reflect a pay to win scheme, that's whack as fukk.
 

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it's been known it would have microtransactions, like pretty much every free-2-play game. the question is, is it pay-2-win?

you can pay for airdrops, which are pretty similar to the airdrops in Rust. a (loud) plane flies over, and drops a crate full of goodies. the idea is it's an obvious event that will attract many players on the server (you can't even call one without a certain number of players on the server). an airdrop is called, and it's a 'free-for-all' to actually get it. they've already been working on tweaking how it works. they've changed the radius it falls in, and the loot it may contain. it also spawns a bunch of zombies when it lands

one of the points of "Early Access" is to tweak stuff like this. they want to see how players will use, and possibly abuse, the ingame systems. and then tweak them so they can be more balanced when the game actually releases

and yeah, they basically said that if you want to be butthurt and not understand how early access works, they'll give you your $20 back... and don't let the door hit you on the way out

This isn't really an excuse as the "pay 2 win" problem still exits. The person with the most money has the best chance of survival/fun. If airdrops were such a great and balanced adition to the gameplay, people wouldn't have to pay for them.

And furthermore this thread isn't so much about the existence of Microtransactions, but about the devs insistence that players would not be able to purchase survival materials.

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So its not about this being "early access" and them looking to tweak things. Its something they already knew was wrong as per their own campaign against these types of transactions.
 
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This isn't really an excuse as the "pay 2 win" problem still exits. The person with the most money has the best chance of survival/fun. If airdrops were such a great and balanced adition to the gameplay, people wouldn't have to pay for them.

And furthermore this thread isn't so much about the existence of Microtransactions, but about the devs insistence that players would not be able to purchase survival materials.

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So its not about this being "early access" and them looking to tweak things. Its something they already knew was wrong as per their own campaign against these types of transactions.
Disgusting.

its in alpha, and already fixed.

I swear yall dont fukking know the difference between alpha, beta, open beta and release..

guess its some of the companies fault too for not explaining to people obviously new to this shyt what alpha means and can confuse people to pay for alpha (I have an issue with that)
 

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its in alpha, and already fixed.

I swear yall dont fukking know the difference between alpha, beta, open beta and release..

guess its some of the companies fault too for not explaining to people obviously new to this shyt what alpha means and can confuse people to pay for alpha (I have an issue with that)

I know exactly what early access is. And shyt like this is exactly why I don't mess with any early access games at all.

They're basically asking you to pay them to play test their game for them, and then they're going to put it out for free later.

So essentialy the biggest fans are paying the most for the worst possible experience, and on top of that they put in microtransactions that they promised would not be there. As far as I'm concerned early access titles should be totally free. We are doing the devs a favor by playing their buggy unfinished games and giving feedback.

Its a total slap in the face to fans and early adopters.

And I'm not seeing where they've been removed. There seems to be a patch coming, but it doesn't address the air drops issue.
 

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I know exactly what early access is. And shyt like this is exactly why I don't mess with any early access games at all.

They're basically asking you to pay them to play test their game for them, and then they're going to put it out for free later.

So essentialy the biggest fans are paying the most for the worst possible experience, and on top of that they put in microtransactions that they promised would not be there. As far as I'm concerned early access titles should be totally free. We are doing the devs a favor by playing their buggy unfinished games and giving feedback.

Its a total slap in the face to fans and early adopters.

And I'm not seeing where they've been removed. There seems to be a patch coming, but it doesn't address the air drops issue.

Im not disagreeing with any of that.. thats how I feel about it as well.

I was one of the lucky people to get into the alpha test of Heroes of the Storm (blizzard's MOBA).. they had like I wanna say 30 heroes or so (off the top of my head) but only give you 4-5 to test, the others you gotta play an insane amount to unlock or buy them

plus they had skins and shyt you could buy etc.. im like :dwillhuh: why are you charging people to test shyt on your game :dwillhuh:

but people bought it up :yeshrug:

shyt was expensive too.. Not sure if you ever played a Blizzard game but they dont hide their greed ways :yeshrug:

Skins was like $10-25 a piece :wtf: A PIECE.. you could buy 3 skins and be at the total cost of a retail game :wtf:

this is just cosmetic shyt :wtf:

as far as early access goes.. Rust did it the right way (if it ever comes out :lolbron: )

they basically said $20 to get early access + alpha testing and when we release the game at $40+, you get the full game already at the $20 price you paid. That seems like a fair way to treat loyal people who helped test the game.

but this h1z1 shyt :camby: gonna release the game for free, but charge people to test it :camby: thats some bull shyt right there
 

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there's been at least 3 patches and server side tweaks

join butthurt internet outrage and argue from ignorance, brehs

I'll be enjoying H1Z1 :win:
 
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