DrBanneker
Space is the Place
We all know about the recent thread talking about suspect posters that lurk or post here. The issue is real and there has long been disruptive traffic of this sort even before this site when that other 4 site took down SOHH.
I commented on it as well
There are usually give away's like "don't vote", excessive and blanket Black woman bashing, or terms like "Democratic plantation" or "race hustlers/pimps". Not everyone who does this is an infiltrator but these are definitely their calling card.
However, recently, especially with this Kamala Harris pick, I have seen some posters, who won't be named, going into overdrive against any perceived dissent against the idea of not only we need to get Trump out of the paint but they Biden/Harris aren't severely flawed and possibly compromised candidates.
For the record, I encourage everyone to vote, get your family/friends registered, and get Trump out in November. I will be voting Biden/Harris. But that is where my obligation ends.
I am calling this out now since any perceived dissent or dissatisfaction with Biden or Harris, including those based on their records and financial donors, is being labeled 'alt-right' or Trumpset even when posters who I am nearly 100% sure are Black express these views. I feel this type of finger wagging will only get worse as November nears.
It seems some people can't hold the simultaneous ideas that Trump must go but they wouldn't be excited about this slate of candidates in any other circumstance. It would be good that they should remember that the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' doctrine taken to an extreme has burned Black people many times throughout history.
I personally am not attacking Kamala for her ancestry (check my post history, I am fine with mixed race people being Black), or even her husband (though his political views would be interesting to know
). I am AA but I am not even hardcore #ADOS like that. She is Howard and AKA/Links so I grant her that.
However, I won't be bullied from making a critical analysis or critical statements due to bullshyt like how much she voted with Bernie (I am interested in what the average voting with Bernie was for all Dem senators...), that this is a deserved win for Black women (Obama was about all Black people, now we have to focus on BW? When has anyone made a statement like a candidate is a deserved win for BM???; seriously, opposing her is soft "misogynoir" now???), or she is somehow some closet FDR that is going to go flip mode on the Establishment once in power when she has never done so in the past
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The Dem leadership and faithful need to get their head out of their asses. Thinking that bots, misinformation, and dissent against the party line are all that made Hillary lose are incredibly short sighted. A lot of them don't want to critically analyze what made the Hillary campaign flawed and are repeating the same mistakes. 2016 should not have even been close but it was. Now they are repeating the same tactics. Trump's outright insanity, COVID, and the economic collapse are making them incredibly overconfident. Quote the polls if you want, they were just as flawed four years back.
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TheColi, for all its faults, is a valuable place where (mostly) Black posters can (sometimes) maturely discuss issues of concern without the influx of racist trolls, biased moderators, and smothering majority opinion. I value it for that and if I wanted a progressive echo chamber I would go mentally masturbate with the Blue Checks on Twitter. But I'm here.
So let's keep it civil and if you have hardcore receipts on the messianic nature of Biden or Harris, give us more than celebrity tweets and Youtube videos and definitely do not write someone off as a 'cac' or Trumpset because they dare ask the right questions or speak to the fact she polled poorly with Black voters in her presidential campaign. She has to make the case, not us.
I commented on it as well
There are usually give away's like "don't vote", excessive and blanket Black woman bashing, or terms like "Democratic plantation" or "race hustlers/pimps". Not everyone who does this is an infiltrator but these are definitely their calling card.
However, recently, especially with this Kamala Harris pick, I have seen some posters, who won't be named, going into overdrive against any perceived dissent against the idea of not only we need to get Trump out of the paint but they Biden/Harris aren't severely flawed and possibly compromised candidates.
For the record, I encourage everyone to vote, get your family/friends registered, and get Trump out in November. I will be voting Biden/Harris. But that is where my obligation ends.
I am calling this out now since any perceived dissent or dissatisfaction with Biden or Harris, including those based on their records and financial donors, is being labeled 'alt-right' or Trumpset even when posters who I am nearly 100% sure are Black express these views. I feel this type of finger wagging will only get worse as November nears.
It seems some people can't hold the simultaneous ideas that Trump must go but they wouldn't be excited about this slate of candidates in any other circumstance. It would be good that they should remember that the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' doctrine taken to an extreme has burned Black people many times throughout history.
I personally am not attacking Kamala for her ancestry (check my post history, I am fine with mixed race people being Black), or even her husband (though his political views would be interesting to know
). I am AA but I am not even hardcore #ADOS like that. She is Howard and AKA/Links so I grant her that.However, I won't be bullied from making a critical analysis or critical statements due to bullshyt like how much she voted with Bernie (I am interested in what the average voting with Bernie was for all Dem senators...), that this is a deserved win for Black women (Obama was about all Black people, now we have to focus on BW? When has anyone made a statement like a candidate is a deserved win for BM???; seriously, opposing her is soft "misogynoir" now???), or she is somehow some closet FDR that is going to go flip mode on the Establishment once in power when she has never done so in the past
. .The Dem leadership and faithful need to get their head out of their asses. Thinking that bots, misinformation, and dissent against the party line are all that made Hillary lose are incredibly short sighted. A lot of them don't want to critically analyze what made the Hillary campaign flawed and are repeating the same mistakes. 2016 should not have even been close but it was. Now they are repeating the same tactics. Trump's outright insanity, COVID, and the economic collapse are making them incredibly overconfident. Quote the polls if you want, they were just as flawed four years back.
----
TheColi, for all its faults, is a valuable place where (mostly) Black posters can (sometimes) maturely discuss issues of concern without the influx of racist trolls, biased moderators, and smothering majority opinion. I value it for that and if I wanted a progressive echo chamber I would go mentally masturbate with the Blue Checks on Twitter. But I'm here.
So let's keep it civil and if you have hardcore receipts on the messianic nature of Biden or Harris, give us more than celebrity tweets and Youtube videos and definitely do not write someone off as a 'cac' or Trumpset because they dare ask the right questions or speak to the fact she polled poorly with Black voters in her presidential campaign. She has to make the case, not us.
