Spin: More Women need to start being honest with men.

[Raava]

Lol aight then 100% straight up, what happens happens. I just think some women are gonna be turned off from it, but they have the right to feel a way and act on it, on to the next if it's a no

That's how it should be. Move on if that's not what she wants.

 

[Matt504]

Sure if thats what you want to go with, I have zero sympathy for any male or female that gets a call after meeting someone the 1st time at 2 am in the morning asking to come over and they are shocked its all about sex. What else is it going to be about at 2 am?


But your right, however i listed plenty of examples of where its clear also.

This isn't about sympathy it's about clarity, you're of the opinion that a person should make assumptions based on what time of day they receive a phone call and my opinion is that being straightforward removes all doubt, confusion or need for assumptions.

Lol aight then 100% straight up, what happens happens. I just think some women are gonna be turned off from it, but they have the right to feel a way and act on it, on to the next if it's a no

Some women will be turned off by it, that's the entire point, you don't have to waste your time with those women, some women won't be turned off by it and those are the women you proceed with because you both want the exact same thing, no games have to be played, there's no room for her to ask "what are we" because you've made it clear up front, you didn't have to lead her on and make her think the situation could become something more than what it is.

 

[The Mad Titan]

While there are women out there that do lie to themselves.

A lot of men do not go up to women and say things like : "I want to get to know you and have a f*ck buddy." "I only want sex and I don't find you up to standard to have a serious relationship with you, but you are good enought to sleep with" They don't say, "I am talking to multiple women and I also want to casually talk to you and have sex with you." They dont say I'm not ready to be in a relationship any time

We can't do that because its rude and off setting, like literally no sane woman would want to hear that, even if they did want straight up sex or was cool being in that situation.

But to me "I want to get to know you and have a f*ck buddy." is the same as "I'm not looking for anything serious but I'd like to get to know you"

"I am talking to multiple women men and I also want to casually talk to you and have sex with you."

I'ma have to say women are way more guilty of this Rae

They dont say I'm not ready to be in a relationship any time

I think both genders say this about evenly, and I feel like its legit most the times for whatever reason.

 

[BmoreGorilla]

Which is more damaging?

I think both sexes should just be upfront from the jump but that's wishful thinking. I do notice now that I'm in my 30s and single again women tend to be much more upfront than they did when I was younger

 

[Matt504]

I think both sexes should just be upfront from the jump but that's wishful thinking. I do notice now that I'm in my 30s and single again women tend to be much more upfront than they did when I was younger

which is surely an after effect of dealing with all the games and realizing how it's just a big waste of time, plenty of people have invested a lot of time into relationships where the other party wanted something different out of the situation, what's worst is when babies are born into these situations where the guy was only interested in sex but didn't make it clear and once she's pregnant and decides to keep the baby, he dips. there's no shortage of single women with newborns and it's mostly because both parties weren't clear on what the relationship was.

 

[The Mad Titan]

The thing is it becomes sexual harassment.


You catch a woman on the wrong day, wrong time, and your upfront with her in the wrong spot and now you've have or have been "sexually harassing her.


Can I be upfront with you at work? Or does this only apply to public setting, if I'm alone with you in a cab or train, on a flight?


women want this

 

[Londilon]

both men and women need to be honest with each other. There are equal amounts of people on both sides that love to waste each others time.

Stop acting like you didn't see the thread created by a breh on here where he said he loves to make women fall in love with him but he wont fukk them or date them, only lead them on.

 

[GoGetMyDamnBelt_]

I remember this guy waiting for a train asked me if I had a boyfriend. I said yes (i didnt), then he said "do you cheat"?
they dont stop

talk about awkward...

 

[SeveroDrgnfli]

Being direct is creepy.

 

[Raava]

We can't do that because its rude and off setting, like literally no sane woman would want to hear that, even if they did want straight up sex or was cool being in that situation.

I'ma have to say women are way more guilty of this Rae


I think both genders say this about evenly, and I feel like its legit most the times for whatever reason.

That's excuses. It's rude you can be honest and not rude. Who cares if she isn't down? At least if she is looking for a relationship she knows you aren't. If she isn't she knows y'all are on the same page.

I think saying I'm not attracted to you so a stranger is rude vs. saying no thank you or just no period. Even saying I'm talking to someone vs I'm not attracted to you at all.

But to me "I want to get to know you and have a f*ck buddy." is the same as "I'm not looking for anything serious but I'd like to get to know you"

I'm talking about after, she says well I'm looking for someting more serious and he follows up with "Well let's just see where it goes"

These aren't exact things these are just examples. People do things in general for convineince and less drama, for women even safety. Don't ask for something you aren't willing to give. There are risks on both sides.

I think both sexes should just be upfront from the jump but that's wishful thinking. I do notice now that I'm in my 30s and single again women tend to be much more upfront than they did when I was younger

That doesn't answer which is more damaging. Someoone thinking the other person has an SO or stringing someone a long for months with lies?

 

[Neuromancer]

You've given me an idea.

 

[Raava]

both men and women need to be honest with each other. There are equal amounts of people on both sides that love to waste each others time.

Stop acting like you didn't see the thread created by a breh on here where he said he loves to make women fall in love with him but he wont fukk them or date them, only lead them on.

I agree,

I'm not acting like that at all. I think anyone wasting someone time is wrong no matter the sex. But rants about a woman saying she has a bf for whatever reason (and that's it you don't have to deal with her anymore)saying how dishonest women are. Then advocating lying about intentions for whatever reason and stringing someone along for weeks or months is wrong.

 

[ultraflexed]

Women cant do that OP cuz these dudes are crazy, will flip out, pull out a gun etc etc...

its safe to say "i have a bf" cuz it
1. safe way to say no
2. puts it in the guys mind he better not try any funny shyt or some mythical 6'5 240 pound bf might be lurking


OP dont kno that tho cuz its a dude masquerading as a female

Hey I'm from cali, live in the and LA from time to time, I've seen prettier girls work at gas station in LA, I love black, darkskin lightskin doesn't matter to me........but Jordin sparks is the basically the average lightskin girl and you can definitely find women who are no named but look as good if not better....

Here is an example remember that picture beyonce took with her.... she is waaaaaw hotter then Jordin sparks and 1,0000x less popular no one would know who she was I'd had never posted that .

I mentioned something similar in my "meeting the right female" advice thread

Guy's don't approach ladies like we use to back in the day, guys today are sensitive can can't take the L on a no response.

Let's say a girl is honest and say "no"
The male the ask why?
Then the female says I'm not interested/not attracted.

The male ego of today's man is as frail as its ever been.

When ladies have been honest I've seen the guys turn around and call the women a "b#tch, I've seen drinks thrown on girls for being honest. Now days it's easier to just say you have a man.

 

[Raava]

The thing is it becomes sexual harassment.


You catch a woman on the wrong day, wrong time, and your upfront with her in the wrong spot and now you've have or have been "sexually harassing her.


Can I be upfront with you at work? Or does this only apply to public setting, if I'm alone with you in a cab or train, on a flight?


women want this

You catch a guy on the wrong day, and tell him you don't want him, not attracted you could get shot, hit, followed, cursed out etc..

 

[Matt504]

The thing is it becomes sexual harassment.


You catch a woman on the wrong day, wrong time, and your upfront with her in the wrong spot and now you've have or have been "sexually harassing her.


Can I be upfront with you at work? Or does this only apply to public setting, if I'm alone with you in a cab or train, on a flight?


women want this

But to me "I want to get to know you and have a f*ck buddy." is the same as "I'm not looking for anything serious but I'd like to get to know you"

This is exactly my point, now you're making excuses as to why you shouldn't be upfront about your intentions and why'd you'd rather place the responsibility on the woman to assume what you mean even though you're not actually saying what you mean clearly.