Spin: Most black men do NOT aspire to be rappers, that isn't the issue...

BrandonBanks

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First off, I think some ppl exaggerate the amount of black men who really want to be rappers. Yes there are definitely guys who rap but it's not some huge epidemic like some ppl try to make it seem.

Here's what the actual problem is imo. It's not that a large amount of black men want to be rappers, because it's not that large of an amount, not enough to be a problem anyway.

The average black boy boy or man i encounter between the ages of 17-25 usually don't aspire to be rappers.

The actual issue is that even though a lot of us DON'T want to be rappers ourselves, we still have too much of a vested interest in rap, and sports, overall.

And I don't wanna hear "white boys do it too", because white boys and men are more economically advantaged than black men as a group, realistically they can afford to waste time, be mediocre or even below average, and still not be as targeted or disadvantaged. They have it much easier. from the day they are born. Don't use "they do it too" as a copout/excuse.

Contrary to what some ppl say, most black boys/men do NOT aspire to be the next Wayne, or the next Lebron. The average young black male works a 9 to 5, and probably has no aspirations to be a big rap star or athlete.

However, IN OUR SPARE TIME, outside of our job, too many of us do devote too much time/interest to rap insignificant details about rappers and athletes, clothing/shoes/fashion, etc. Knowing about the origins of some beef, somebody's hottest bar or album, who fukked the same industry hoes, who's the best athlete, the illest sneaker colorways, etc may be entertaining but none of that matters. I know i'll catch heat for saying it, but none of those things matter. Knowing these things might be 'fun' but when it comes to business, those things are worthless and will not help us progress as men.

If devoted that much time to researching/discussing business, law, engineering, etc instead of worthless info like gossiping about rap/sports etc we'd gain more economic power. Even researching how to open your own food truck is a better use of time than discussing who murdered who on their own shyt, who's gonna score the most points, who won a beef, etc

Many of us are way too invested in those things, just bump the music and watch the game when it's on and move on, knowing and continuously discussing these meaningless random facts about these rappers, athletes, shoes, etc is an overall waste of time, it's a very immature mentality that many of us need to snap out of. The problem isn't that a lot of black men "want to be rappers", most of us don't, the problem is that in our spare time too many of us spend too much time talking about rappers, athletes and other meaningless things that do not matter at all in the real world.
 

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I don't see it personally, almost every young nikka I know had a dream of being a rapper, baller or dope boy.
 

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I don't see it personally, almost every young nikka I know had a dream of being a rapper, baller or dope boy.

And nowadays every white boy had a dream of being an athlete or entertainer as well :manny:

Watch "The Voice" or "Americas Got Talent" and you scores and scores of people (of all races) who want to be entertainers and who have been streamlined from a young age (from their parents) into becoming entertainers.

This isn't a race thing...it's an American thing...our values are shyt and it takes too long for us to mature into viable humans. If you look at a lot of 16 year olds in different countries vs our 16 year old Americans (across the board race wise) you'll usually see huge gaps in maturity, responsibility, and general aptitude. The issue we have in our community is that when we (Blacks in America) begin our maturation process we don't have the faculties and establishments to always guide us into success.
 

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Though I think way too many brothers do dream of bein' these things, thus the fascination, I agree with this premise. Way too much time spent on non productive things. Entertainment is cool, but if you spend more time bein' entertained than workin' on self, life will never be what you want it to be.

With this mindset, even if we had more positive images outside of sports & music, folks would still play the sidelines, watchin' doctors & businessmen do their thing, praisin' & complainin'. Only half the issue lies with the media. The other half is motivation, plannin' & follow through.
 

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And nowadays every white boy had a dream of being an athlete or entertainer as well :manny:

Watch "The Voice" or "Americas Got Talent" and you scores and scores of people (of all races) who want to be entertainers and who have been streamlined from a young age (from their parents) into becoming entertainers.

This isn't a race thing...it's an American thing...our values are shyt and it takes too long for us to mature into viable humans. If you look at a lot of 16 year olds in different countries vs our 16 year old Americans (across the board race wise) you'll usually see huge gaps in maturity, responsibility, and general aptitude. The issue we have in our community is that when we (Blacks in America) begin our maturation process we don't have the faculties and establishments to always guide us into success.
Yeah I wasn't trying to imply that it was a race thing.
 

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this completely depends on where you live/grow up.

If you are from the burbs, no you will not see many boys who want to grow up to be a rapper.
But visit a public school in innercity Dallas and ask those kids what they want to be and see how many of them say rapper/entertainer or baller :manny:






Now watch this thread go on and be pages and pages of people claiming to be right without even experiencing the other side of the spectrum:comeon:
 

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This is true.

Very rare to hear Black men discussing business opportunities, national politics beyond the superficial, etc.

But, you can get nikkas to almost come to blows over rappers, sports, etc.

And yet these are the main things my friends and I discuss.... :jbhmm:


We really need to stop overgeneralizing
 

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Time invested in 'facts' and analyzations about rappers and sports etc would be better served towards learning and discussing far more productive things. Particularly business/enterpreneurship opportunities for us as black men, among other things.

Knowing these details about rappers, athletes, etc is useless. It really is, whether ppl want to admit it or not
 

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I thought there would be way more unsigned artist, here but I guess I'm the only one with rap dreams :mjcry:

Don't get it twisted I'm almost done with my STEM degree
 

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And yet these are the main things my friends and I discuss.... :jbhmm:


We really need to stop overgeneralizing

I don't think he's saying there are no black men who devote time to business/economics etc but there definitely aren't enough.

If there were, don't you think more of the businesses in our communities would be owned by us instead of other races??

I'm in my 20s, i have a small business and i can honestly say most black men i encounter aren't even interested in starting businesses or even discussing it/learning more about it, they work of course but outside of work, many are more interested in sports, rap, etc just as OP said, instead of business and investment opportunities for black men and boys.

It's rare that i even encounter another black man with a business nowadays, let alone one who even wants to talk about business.

If it were as important to us as it should be, most of our sons wouldn't still be looking to non black men for jobs/employment...
 

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When I moved to ATL 4 years ago the number of "aspiring rappers" Ive ran across since then:wow:


The problem is that hiphop (not just the music, but the entire lifestyle that it promotes) & sports are the 2 biggest representors of black success.

Hate to keep saying it but its by design:yeshrug:

An entire nation of intelligent, masculine, pro-black black men is what they DON'T want


































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