State of PBC per Dan Rafael

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What has happened to Premier Boxing Champions?

What has happened to Premier Boxing Champions?

When Al Haymon's series began with massive hype in March 2015, PBC rolled out one fight card after another on numerous networks as part of its extensive time buy. It was almost impossible to keep up with all the fight announcements and the networks they were on -- NBC, CBS, ESPN, NBCSN, Spike, Bounce TV, Fox, FS1. Did I miss any?

Now, it's not so hard at all. In fact, it's easy. There is but one single card on the schedule, and it is nothing to get excited about. It's a weak show on Sept. 27 in Santa Fe, New Mexico, on FS1 that is headlined by welterweight Bryant Perrella against Yordenis Ugas. This is not a significant, interesting fight.

Once upon a time, there were often multiple PBC cards per week populated by name fighters; Haymon spent his investors' $500 million lavishly as though it would never run out.

Now it is plainly clear that the war chest has been badly depleted, even though PBC officials are loath to talk about it.

I regularly examine purse payout sheets from the state commissions, and the PBC fighter purses have dropped substantially from where they were last year. The production costs have also been slashed, which is why the huge stage and both the blue and red fighter holding areas are gone; it costs a lot to truck them around the country. Other bells and whistles have also been eliminated to save money, according to people involved in producing PBC telecasts.

And since there is less money being thrown around, the quality of fights has been dramatically reduced. Last year, ESPN aired big-time fights such as Leo Santa Cruz against Abner Mares at Staples Center in front of a huge Los Angeles crowd, and fights with major names such as Keith Thurman and Danny Garcia. Those fights cost millions.

This summer, ESPN got the likes of Sergey Lipinets against Walter Castillo in a quiet casino in a main event that cost a tiny fraction of the previous year's main events.

Showtime (which pays for fights as opposed to being a time buy) is planning some fall PBC cards, but there are only two more slated for Spike (none until Nov. 12). Those networks figure to have some of the better names and higher-level fights. However, one outlet that has had the most significant PBC fights is NBC, which said Wednesday that it will not televise any other cards this year, either on the main network or its NBCSN cable network. Several dates for the remainder of the year have been canceled, including two December prime-time NBC cards and at least three NBCSN cards.

"We are working with the PBC folks to move remaining shows to better dates in first two to three months of '17," an NBC spokesman told ESPN.com on Wednesday.

Since the cards on FS1 and Bounce TV are generally prospect oriented or lower-level fights, there are few outlets left this year for the slew of top PBC fighters. There are no more ESPN cards this year (and they were turned into lower-level cards anyway) nor are there any more scheduled for Fox or CBS.

Yet there are a bunch of top fighters aligned with PBC who have fought only once this year and are in need of bouts. They include Daniel Jacobs, Garcia, Thurman, Shawn Porter, Adonis Stevenson, Andre Berto, Jermall Charlo, Jermell Charlo, Julian Williams, Erislandy Lara, Vanes Martirosyan, James DeGale, Badou Jack, Anthony Dirrell, Andre Dirrell, Austin Trout, Adrien Broner, Rances Barthelemy, Gary Russell Jr., John Molina Jr., Dejan Zlaticanin, Jose Pedraza, Edner Cherry and Lee Selby, among others.

Perhaps some of the fighters have fought only once by design, but certainly not all of them or even most of them. It's hard to keep guys busy at their expected purse level when much of the money that bankrolled PBC cards is gone.

There are others who have not fought at all this year, including Peter Quillin, Devon Alexander, Lamont Peterson, Jesus Cuellar and Abner Mares.

Of course, some of these fighters will be scheduled before the end of the year. It would seem as though a fight such as the Cuellar-Mares featherweight title bout, called off in July, will be rescheduled before the sun sets on 2016. Also, for example, there is supposedly a deal between junior middleweight titlist Jermall Charlo and mandatory challenger Williams to fight this fall, which is why the purse bid was canceled. Stevenson likely will face mandatory challenger Eleider Alvarez this fall. And Jacobs, a secondary middleweight titlist and a mandatory challenger for unified titleholder Gennady Golovkin, may wind up crossing the street to HBO for the high-profile/big-money fight in late November or early December.

"Most people in TV sports programming stay away from trying to counter program college football, the NFL, MLB playoffs and the start of the NBA season in October and November," PBC spokesman Tim Smith said. "PBC is a TV boxing series, and as such, it's mindful of the sports programming around it, and it wants to maximize potential viewership among sports fans."

Of course, that was not an issue last fall, when the money was flowing and there were several PBC cards. PBC's activity level has slowed as its bank account has seemingly dwindled.
 

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I know Dan ain't exactly the most popular or credible dude but between Top Rank and Golden Boy having mediocre in house fights, it is obvious all these promoters need each other and their resources and fighters.

HBO slashed its budget and is straight:trash: now but GGG vs Jacobs if true is a step in the right direction.

What y'all think?:patrice:
 

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Read this the other day, after he pointed some of the stuff out I was like :ohhh:. We talk about HBO budget being trash but it seem like PBC is on the same shyt.
Like I didn't even realize that Quillen, Devon Alexander and Peterson didn't even fight this year and it's end of September. Then there are a ton of fighters who only fought once this year, have no fight lined up and have NO BUZZ what so ever. Can anybody tell me who the fukk Gary Russell Jr. Fighting next or who Danny Garcia wants next after 9+ months of doing nothing. PBC ain't building anticipation or hype for these guys

the promotion and presentation of the bouts has gone way down since it started. When PBC started they said investors gave enough money for 3 yrs of time slots then the plan was for PBC to be so popular they get contracts from ESPN or NBC or who ever. Right now I don't see that happening. PBC is basically 2-3 nights of aight ratings per year and the rest is straight trash.
 

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I think all these promoters are getting a big slap in the face with it that they can be on their own and do things by themselves and without these quality matchups fans are revolting.

There's no reason Danny Garcia shouldn't fight Tim Bradley or Terence Crawford right now or anybody else of the high-level quality. Thurman should be fighting Spence Jr or Manny (:camby:Vargas) and GGG needs a guy with a pulse like Jacobs.

Would love Mikey Garcia and Crawford. Or Commey or Easter Jr vs Lomenchenko.:banderas:
 

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good i hope he fails enough that it destroys him and he has to leave boxing. The man single handedly ruined the sport for viewers.

This dude dont even got a espn card anymore, he killed FNF and now we cant even watch for the next 5 months. :beli:
 

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I never trust cac boxing media when it comes to Al Haymon stuff

and Rafeal has no idea of what Haymon's strategy is or any insider knowledge...so, politely, fucc outta here :camby:

I won't dispute the fact that Dan is notoriously biased especially towards Top Rank and Triple G but where there's smoke there's fire and I just think that would be better if all these promoters with these lackluster fights they been talking together with the occasional dope fight managed to work out their differences.

And all those dudes have been sidelined. That's a fact. And BLH talked about this too. I think HBO has been AWFUL for the last 12 months and I think everyone's stubbornness is biting them now. Only fighters that get who they want are the British guys. They're insulated from the BS.
 

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Interesting he didn't mention anything about TruTv going away, HBO's only fights being on ppv etc.

IDK why so many want to see PBC fail

There's no dispute that he definitely has biased when it comes to dealing with Al and PBC I come from the school of thought that all I want to do is just watch the fights. I don't care about the promoter obviously I want the fighters to get compensated for what they're worth but I think right now there's a crucial period where every single outlet of these fights is under a budget crunch because Floyd retired and now there's a void being left of lack of good fights being made particularly at the welterweight division.

A guy like Keith Thurman has superstar written all over him and I just don't understand how this guy hasn't blown up yet he's got charm knockout power and crowd-pleasing style.

I will say that HBO has done an absolute awful job and Triple G and his hype and I think he's a good fighter has gotten completely ridiculous hopefully now with this bad year under our belt we can start to see some good fights next year.

I just hate to see these guys primes being wasted. My personal opinion is I think it's going to take somebody significant to break with their promoter or tell them they're tired of sitting on the shelf for something to change. And that goes for Crawford, Lomenchenko, Bradley.
 
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