Stay In The Car: A Traffic Stop Gone Bad

[Scientific Playa]

Cliffs ... Breh officer pulled over a driver for speeding who turns out to be a I.A. Lt. and all hell breaks out. Officer Jackson was sharp enough to have his own dash cam to capture the incident, ala Atl Mall Cop.

JACKSON EXPLAINS WHAT HAPPENED TO "RICK"




Blogger Al Crespo is a real deal OG

Detailed article

http://www.crespogram.com/index_public_html/TRAFFIC_STOP_GONE_BAD.html






Local news article .....

Traffic stop fight between two Miami officers addressed by officials
Posted: Jul 14, 2014 7:11 PM EST

http://www.wsvn.com/story/26016678/...een-two-miami-officers-addressed-by-officials


MIAMI (WSVN) -- The Miami Fraternal Order of Police is investigating video footage that shows two Miami officers fighting during a traffic stop.

The incident happened on June 24 when an on-duty officer caught a vehicle speeding on Flagler Street in Little Havana. Officer Marcel Jackson proceeded to pull the driver over, but when he asked for the driver's license, the driver refused and an altercation ensued. Jackson was unaware that the driver of the vehicle was Lieutenant David Ramras, a Miami Internal Affairs Lieutenant.

Jackson and the lieutenant proceeded to have a physical argument, which was caught on Jackson's personal camera and posted to YouTube.

"The sad thing is that people will be judging Miami's finest, the whole police force, because of those two cops hitting each other," said City of Miami Mayor Tomas Regalado.

Regalado is surprised by the video but the behaviors by both officers are being investigated internally. "The Chief has a very tough decision to make, but hopefully those two will be reprimanded," said Regalado.

After the fight, Jackson returned to his vehicle and placed the camera to his side. The video later recorded a phone conversation while Jackson was in his squad car, sharing his side of the incident.

The video was discovered and posted online by blogger Al Crespo. "I got it, and I saw it, and I thought it was something that the public should see," said Crespo.

In the recorded call, Jackson said the driver flashed his ID, asked about something on the officer's face and then tried to get out of the car. "He pushes his weight out, so I took him to the ground, and I straddled him, and I told him, 'Stop,'" said Jackson in the recording. "Dude, luckily, some K-9 officers showed up."

The video also showed two officers immediately come to the aid of Jackson as the fight continued. As the officers assisted Jackson, a verbal exchange took place. "You know who the [expletive] I am," said Ramras.

Officer: "No, I don't, sir."

Sergeant Javier Ortiz, President of the Miami Fraternal Order of Police released a statement that read, "The Miami-Dade Office of the State Attorney is reviewing the case, and we look forward to this investigation being concluded."

Crespo is concerned what could have occurred had the driver been a civilian, rather than an officer. "If I had been stopped, and I had attempted to do what the police lieutenant did, I would have been arrested," he said. "I might even have been shot."

A spokesperson for the police department said Jackson was relieved of duty pending the outcome of the investigation. Lieutenant Ramras has been reassigned to a special investigations section, considered a promotion by others.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Why is it so hard for these dudes to just fukking comply?

I never understand that whole "do you know who I am?" steez

Cause if he fukking did, he wouldn't ask

 

[observe]

Pig problems

 

[FaTaL]

Why is it so hard for these dudes to just fukking comply?

I never understand that whole "do you know who I am?" steez

Cause if he fukking did, he wouldn't ask

there used to be in control


so ia cant be arrested for assault?

 

[wongzini]

Lol overlooking the backstory anyone else find it amusing that the tables were turned?
seeing that the police brutality was flipped had me like ...

gave me a new respect for the law for a second.

But I guess this how the cacs feel when we getting hemmed up

 

[Scientific Playa]

police filming blog ..... check out the comments

July 14th, 2014
Miami Cop Fearing Termination after Altercation with Internal Affairs Lieutenant he Pulled Over (Updated) 70
By Carlos Miller

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2...rcation-speeding-internal-affairs-lieutenant/



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another news source ....

Posted on Mon, Jul. 14, 2014
Secret dash cam captures Miami cops’ traffic stop scuffle
By Charles Rabin and David Smiley
dsmiley@MiamiHerald.com

Miami police are investigating an embarrassing roadside scuffle between two of their own after a traffic stop devolved into an afternoon wrestling match on the side of Flagler Street.
The brief June 24 struggle between Officer Marcel Jackson and Lt. David Ramras was captured by Jackson’s personal dash-camera — which supervisors say was rolling without their knowledge. The footage is now evidence in a state attorney’s office investigation.

The video, first obtained by the Crespogram Report, shows Jackson driving around Miami and pulling over an allegedly speeding silver Chevrolet sedan next to a Westar gas station on Flagler. He approaches the car, and after about 30 seconds the man behind the wheel opens the car door and tries to get out.

When the door swings open, Jackson extends his arms and pushes the driver, Ramras, back up against the car’s frame. The two men grapple, and then Jackson drops Ramras to the ground on his back and straddles his torso. Almost immediately, Miami officers in three squad cars arrive and break up the scuffle.

On the video, Ramras stands up and is heard yelling, “You do know who the f--k I am.”

“No, I don’t,” Jackson shouts back at him.

Later, Jackson gets back in his car, points his camera down to his seats, and describes the encounter during an apparent phone conversation.

“He pushes open the door, hits me with the door. So I pushed the door back like stay in the car and he’s like ‘I’m lieutenant of police! I’m lieutenant of police!’ and he pushes his way out of the car. So I took him to the ground,” Jackson is heard saying. “I’ve never seen this guy. I don’t even know who this guy is.”

Police Chief Manuel Orosa said police aren't certain what caused the wrestling match, but he said that Ramras identified himself and provided identification before getting out of the car.

The two men involved in the incident have been relieved of their posts for now — but for different reasons.

Ramras has been moved from internal affairs to a post in command staff's office doing paperwork while the investigation being conducted by Miami's Special Investigative Section plays out. Jackson has been relieved of duty with pay, because police say, he refused to hand over the personal GoPro camera that recorded the event as well as several traffic violations.

Jackson visited the police department with his GoPro and provided the scene of the confrontation with Ramras, said Orosa. But the chief said he hasn't turned over any of the other recordings, and police are worried he’s hiding records.

“An officer recording traffic stops with a private camera, the rules say you can't do that,” said Orosa. “We're liable for what he does at work and it [the video] needs to be stored for safekeeping. If it's destroyed, that's a no-no.”

Late Monday, Jackson’s attorney sent a letter to Orosa in which he disputed that Ramras identified himself. He said Miami police treated the officer as a suspect and lieutenant as a victim after the altercation, and called on the department to reinstate Jackson and recuse itself entirely from an internal review of the incident.

The internal police investigation has for now been handed over to the state attorney's office, which will decide whether to press charges.

Sgt. Javier Ortiz, president of Miami’s Fraternal Order of Police, did not return phone calls, an email and a text message Monday. The union issued a press release saying neither man has made a statement to investigators, and welcoming the conclusion of the investigation.

Mayor Tomás Regalado called the video “a shame.”

“It really looks bad because it’s right in the middle of Flagler and you have a plainclothes officer fighting another officer,” he said. “But it doesn’t represent our police department.”


popo blog .....

another example how corrupt our brass is



http://www.leoaffairs.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=161258#p1175089

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Que the bugs bunny gif.

 

[TRFG]

Officer Jackson seems like a good guy

 

[Scientific Playa]

update .... the police union is making some noise ...


Posted on Tue, Jul. 15, 2014
Miami police union wants FDLE involved in probe of fracas between two officers
Miami Herald Staff

Miami’s police union has asked Chief Manuel Orosa to rethink a decision to have the department investigate an altercation between two officers during a traffic stop.
Sgt. Javier Ortiz, president of the Miami Fraternal Order of Police, publicly released the letter late Tuesday telling the chief and Major Jorge Martin, head of the department’s special investigations section, that the FOP would have “no issue with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement working concurrently with the Miami Police Department in the investigation” of a fracas between Lt. David Ramras and officer Marcel Jackson that was caught on camera.

Jackson was relieved of duty with pay. Lt. Ramras, of internal affairs, was moved to desk duty.

Regarding Jackson, Ortiz’ letter stated “we feel that he should not be relieved of duty at home.”

The letter went on to state that the department has a “serious conflict having the Special Investigations Section investigating this incident when you decided to transfer Lieutenant Ramras to that same section. Any reasonable person would agree with our position. Please rethink your decision.”

The roadside scuffle between Ramras and Jackson occurred after a June 24 afternoon traffic stop initiated by Jackson resulted in a brief tussle between the two cops on Flagler Street.

The struggle between Jackson and Ramras was captured by Jackson’s personal dash-camera — which supervisors say was rolling without their knowledge. The footage is now evidence in a state attorney’s office investigation.

The video, first obtained by the Crespogram Report, shows Jackson pulling over a silver Chevrolet sedan on Flagler. He approaches the car, and after about 30 seconds the man behind the wheel opens the car door and tries to get out.

When the door swings open, Jackson extends his arms and pushes the driver, Ramras, back up against the car’s frame. The two men grapple, and then Jackson drops Ramras to the ground on his back and straddles his torso. Almost immediately, Miami officers in three squad cars arrive and break up the scuffle.

On the video, Ramras stands up and is heard yelling, “You do know who the f--k I am.”

“No, I don’t,” Jackson shouts back at him.

Later, Jackson gets back in his car, points his camera down to his seats, and describes the encounter during an apparent phone conversation.

“He pushes open the door, hits me with the door. So I pushed the door back like stay in the car and he’s like ‘I’m lieutenant of police! I’m lieutenant of police!’ and he pushes his way out of the car. So I took him to the ground,” Jackson is heard saying. “I’ve never seen this guy. I don’t even know who this guy is.”

The two men were relieved of their posts.

Ramras has been moved from internal affairs to a post in command staff's office doing paperwork while the investigation being conducted by Miami's Special Investigative Section plays out. Jackson has been relieved of duty with pay, because police say, he refused to hand over his personal GoPro camera that recorded the event as well as several traffic violations.

Jackson visited the police department with his GoPro and provided the scene of the confrontation with Ramras, said Orosa. But the chief said he hasn't turned over any of the other recordings.

The internal police investigation has for now been handed over to the state attorney's office, which will decide whether to press charges.

 

[The Maverick]

Florida cops are actually Dexter-level stupid? Who would have thought.