This how I feel too.
Steph Curry has completely WARPED the way we rate players
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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The 16 Thunder for sure...he showed heart in that one. Then followed it up with the 16 Cavs
And he only started balling in the 2nd half of that Game 7 vs Houston after they imploded. First half he was tight and awful. Before that he was only good in Game 3
He was ballin' in Game 6 as well (hit a # of timely shots, and when Durant faded into the background, was the #1 reason why their offense got its fluidity back) - especially on defense, in fact, that was the most undervalued aspect of his play in those two games - he was relentless on that side of the floor. He definitely was not "tight and awful" in the first half of G6, how the hell are you already coming with this revisionism shyt and that series is barely a week old?
The fact is (whether you want to admit it or not), he plays his best basketball when he's down.
"You're overexaggerating because you're [sub]consciously focused on the moments which you perceive to be bad play from him, as if they're the norm and not an outlier, when if you took everything in equal measure, you'd realize he doesn't go ghost, but the very opposite:
2015 First round - Game 3 away from home - down 105-108, hits 3-pointer with two seconds left, goes into OT and contributes 11 of the 15 points through scoring/playmaking - finishes the series averaging 34 ppg on high efficiency.
2015 Second Round - down 1-2 - closes out series on the road x2 - averaged nearly 30 ppg on high efficiency against one of the best defensive teams in the league, dropping 13 points in the 4th quarter of the close-out game.
2015 WCF - averages 31 ppg on ultra efficiency, including a 40-pt game on 19 shots away from home.
2015 Finals - down 1-2 - closes out the series with three straight wins - averages 28 ppg on high efficiency (while his second-option only averaged 8 ppg), finished with the most clutch points in the series (even more than LeBron), while dealing with more defensive attention than any player in the league.
2016 Second Round (returns after being injured in the first round) - breaks the overtime scoring record with 17 points, finishes the series averaging 34 ppg on ultra efficiency.
2016 WCF - down 1-3 - closes out series with three straight wins - averaged 32 ppg on high efficiency, including a 22-point second half to go along with Klay's 25-point second half in Game 6 away from home (hitting the dagger), and a 36-point performance in Game 7 (hitting 7-12 threes) when the rest of his teammates shot poorly from the field, including a 15-point 4th quarter, again, hitting the dagger. Including a masterful performance on defense, where he defended Westbrook better than any other Warriors defender.
2017 First Round, Second Round, WCF, Finals - his first postseason since 2015 where he was healthy: had multiple 30+ ppg series' on ultra efficiency, and end up finishing the postseason with one of the most efficient high-volume scoring postseasons in NBA history.
2018 Second Round (returns from injury, after being out for nearly two months) - closes out the series with a 28-point performance on ultra efficiency.
2018 WCF - drops close to 30 ppg in the last five games on high efficiency, in the midst of being down 2-3, had TWO pivotal quarter scoring-bursts to help break the deadlock in both elimination games - in particular Game 7 when he brought his team back from being down double-digits at halftime with a 14-point quarter.
Apart from the hiccup in the 2016 Finals (where his mobility was gradually getting worse due to an injury), Curry has performed like an all-time great in EVERY single key-moment in the playoffs, since his rise to superstardom. Not just one play, or one game, or one series, but ALL of them - even more so when the Warriors were trailing in series' or games - he'd reach a new level.
And this is without mentioning he was dealing with more defensive attention than any other perimeter player in NBA history, in the '15 and '16 postseasons."
Gil Scott-Heroin
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NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
The guy took SEVENTEEN 3's yesterday, and its not uncommon for him to finish in double digit attempts
. I've never seen a player more overrated due to a system, ever. Great shooter obviously, but breh is middle of the pack without those looks.
. I've never seen a player more overrated due to a system, ever. Great shooter obviously, but breh is middle of the pack without those looks.
Hollywood Co
Primetime Reppin
The guy took SEVENTEEN 3's yesterday, and its not uncommon for him to finish in double digit attempts
#1 All time range, touch and stroke. That separates from pretty much every player that ever lived. The fact he's an all star level player on the offensive in every other way is crazy. All he has to be is marginal defender and he would be justified as an all time player.
His greatest skill happens to be the most important function in basketball. He's a cheat code.
GPBear
The Tape Crusader
Steph/Warriors in general broke the game of basketball and the way it'll be played forever. 
Gil Scott-Heroin
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Explain to me how you find that funny when he completes them at 41% in the postseason, that means he's scoring 13 points on 10.5 shots, that is the equivalent of shooting 60+% on two-pt shots.The guy took SEVENTEEN 3's yesterday, and its not uncommon for him to finish in double digit attempts
What looks are you talking about, the looks where he pulls up from behind-the-arc more than any player in history, explain how a system allows him to do that? Does that system give him magical players to hit shots like this -
or what about this -
Gil Scott-Heroin
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Is there any point to your mindless trolling besides letting everyone know how much of a rockbrain you are?
TrebleMan
Superstar
When team defenses have to start adjusting because you're 30 feet out, you better believe that's impact.
~47 feet out after taking two steps into the shot from a standstill:
Dude could pull up from that distance, defenders would fly in the air at him only to be hit by a hesitation.
The same hesitations that fake out cameramen:
Curry can fit on any team in history.
~47 feet out after taking two steps into the shot from a standstill:
Dude could pull up from that distance, defenders would fly in the air at him only to be hit by a hesitation.
The same hesitations that fake out cameramen:
Curry can fit on any team in history.
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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If there was a Magic-equivalent in the game today, he'd be getting killed by the media and basketball public for his lack of defense. The brush of nostalgia has painted over all his imperfections, as is the case for a # of legends.
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Explain to me how you find that funny when he completes them at 41% in the postseason, that means he's scoring 13 points on 10.5 shots, that is the equivalent of shooting 60+% on two-pt shots.
What looks are you talking about, the looks where he pulls up from behind-the-arc more than any player in history, explain how a system allows him to do that? Does that system give him magical players to hit shots like this -
or what about this -
he isn't pulling up for all of his shot attempts, the majority of his shots are due to screen play in some way, and when the defense does get a chance to set to negate the pull-up forcing an iso - it takes breh a multitude of dribbles to attempt to get by his man (even with a big on him as a switch mismatch), that's not impressive. All of this goat PG talk and the guy doesn't even play like one.Gil Scott-Heroin
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And why negate his play as if he doesn't move off the ball, and utilize his surroundings better than nearly every single player in NBA history?
Not only are you overexaggerating this, but he breaks down his man in an attempt to get some separation to get off a 3-pt shot, the drive is secondary, so once he realizes the defender is defending him for the 3-pt shot, he opts to drive. This is all without mentioning multiple knee sprains have affected his lateral movement - he can't move like he did back in 2013.
And this is why you'll never understand the game because you're operating on this false praxis of basketball.
In a game that was tightly contested, Front runner Curry follows up a game where he barely managed to crack 40 FG% after spamming 3s with a double digit lead with a 11 pt 18.8 FG% effort
He has NO good games this finals
"Most dominant since Shaq and best guard since Jordan"
At least I respect Lebron’s talent, Euro Curry is the most overrated player in NBA history
A fraud who needs 10 screens to get a shot off should never have multiple MVPs nor be cited as changing the game. He is a system player, not the system and his game isnt built to be a anchor on a title team...he better thank the heavens for that Kyrie injury a few years back.
Nothing else for Currysexuals to cling to besides “Curry’s gravity gives KD the space to drop 50 :trollbron:”
Players like Durant and Lebron can feed themselves off the dribble ISOing unlike that manufactured fraud.
@Gil Scott-Heroin @.number.(n)one.*
He has NO good games this finals
"Most dominant since Shaq and best guard since Jordan"
At least I respect Lebron’s talent, Euro Curry is the most overrated player in NBA history
A fraud who needs 10 screens to get a shot off should never have multiple MVPs nor be cited as changing the game. He is a system player, not the system and his game isnt built to be a anchor on a title team...he better thank the heavens for that Kyrie injury a few years back.
Nothing else for Currysexuals to cling to besides “Curry’s gravity gives KD the space to drop 50 :trollbron:”
Players like Durant and Lebron can feed themselves off the dribble ISOing unlike that manufactured fraud.
@Gil Scott-Heroin @.number.(n)one.*