Stephen Hawking says humans have 1000 years left on earth.

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I think i'll give more weight to the words of Stephen Hawking over some nikka named "The Dankster" on a message board.
 

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Interesting, I don't know enough about Hawking or physics, do you have any idea what made him damn near THE most known physician on Earth? How is he viewed by fellow top-level physicians?

Hawking works in cosmology, which is basically "explaining the state of the whole universe". That's the sort of field that really appeals to the general public. No one is likely to know your name if you work in electromagnetics or materials science or even particle physics, unless you have some non-physics-related quality that makes you appealing to a wider audience. But working in cosmology, saying things like, "I'm trying to develop a Theory of Everything", that's what gets your name out beyond the inner circle.

On top of that, in the 1990s Hawkings wrote a popular book on cosmology meant for a general audience, called, "A Brief History of Time". It was well-written and perfectly titled, and that's when his name recognition really exploded.

On top of that, of course is the fact that he is physically disabled to the point where he's basically completely immobile. Since people are so prejudiced against disabled people, the fact that someone can be a brilliant physicist while others call then "a retard" (see above in this thread) is the sort of thing that gets noticed. Oscar Pistorius isn't the greatest sprinter in the world, but he's certainly one of the most famous.


As far as how he's viewed by his fellow scientists, he's certainly very highly respected in his particular field of cosmology. He's been wrong about a number of things, but anyone who thinks boldly will be wrong from time to time. He's made important advances in the field. I don't follow cosmology very closely, so I can't say this with any certainty, but I get the impression that he's certainly one of the 5-10 most respected physicists in his particular field. Of course, there are hundreds of physicists in other fields who are just as highly respected by their peers. It's just that the public is never going to get excited about energy states in a semiconductor or extending the photon reach in optical coherance microscopy in the same way they get excited about a guy who says, "This is how black holes work" or "This is how the universe was created".



As for the bolded, I feel the same way : regardless of environmental issues, what will moving to another planet do if we move with the same mindframe we have? We'll buy another thousands years on another planet, but we'll most likely reproduce the same patterns and issues we have down here regarding coexistence imo. We're far more advanced technologically than we are socially and politically (which in itself is a HUGE issue, and the reason we got to this point in the first place imo), so unless we show progress in that regard I don't see how moving to another planet would work. Would there be a "world" government over there, the same thing we can't have here? Or more likely different colonies ( ="countries") that will sooner or later become enemies in order to access ressources?

Yeah, not even thousands of years. The planet would be unlikely to be as perfectly suited to human life as this one is, and we can already destroy resources far faster than we were able to even 200 years ago, so any new planet would almost certainly be vulnerable to a much quicker destruction than this one is.

People who spend too much of their lives focused on technology are always thinking that technology will be the solution, when it has just as often shown itself to be the problem. Technology, overall, is neutral. You rightly point out that social/political solutions are far more vital to getting this thing turned around.



I think i'll give more weight to the words of Stephen Hawking over some nikka named "The Dankster" on a message board.

Appeal to Authority is a logical fallacy in any case. Appeal to Authority when your "authority" isn't even an authority on the topic at hand is just stupid.

You're literally giving him cred on this topic because he's famous and you heard someone say he was smart.

Would you trust his opinion on who the Titans should draft next year? Or on who was going to win the election this year? Explain to me why his work in cosmology gives him any more reason to be listened to on this topic than on those?



(And "meh" on the nickname - I didn't self-gloss. :pacspit:)
 
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What does Hawking know about environmental sustainability? What expertise has he EVER gained on the subject? When did he ever get educated on economic growth, birth rate changes, sustainable farming, pollution mitigation? What research has he done on literally anything related to this subject?

I think I could get you a clear answer pretty quickly. :francis:


Do you just worship famous people, or immediately adhere to the beliefs of people with high IQ? If not, then why are Hawking's views on this topic relevant at all? :rudy:


Even if you're going on a pure IQ level, there are certainly several Higher Learning posters with measured IQ's just as high as Hawking. Of course, they don't have his cred in theoretical physics and cosmology...but this topic has NOTHING to do with either of those at all. I've read some of Hawking's work and listened to his talks, and there's nothing in there that would inform him on these subjects.

:dwillhuh: Looks like i finally agree with you on something


These Nikkas act like stephen hawking is a God due to his work on theoretical physics....a field full of abstacts and absolutes

They are so blinded by his credentials they cant see He is far less suited to speak on ecology and biology than a high school biology teacher.
 

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anyone who truly believes in these utopian societies etc is fukkin stupid at this point :skip: i realize many of you are in HS or early on college

but if living so far should tell you is that:

1. Life aint fair, some people got more than others
2. Some will try to keep it that way, others will try to take and redistribute it (by whatever means)
3. People are inherently greedy for status
4. All of the debates on idealogies are just on the surface, real debate is at #3

So more or less, only reason big corporations will stop doing things the way they do is if they make money doing it another way (still squeezing value out of somebody or something). Governments will facilitate this as thats their cash cow

If the ability to live in space or on another world come along, it will go to those with means first then the rest depending on whether the powers that be still find a way to extract value out of the proposition. Otherwise fat chance

Best advice I can give you all is seek financial independence first and foremost and protect your family and friends with this knowledge and dont sugar coat it :wow: Rich stay rich doing this and building generational wealth. There are owners and there are laborers dont be a laborer all your life. We have that opportunity as americans to get out from that label.
 
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