Stunning drops in solar, wind costs mean economic case for coal, gas is ‘crumbling’

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Stunning drops in solar, wind costs mean economic case for coal, gas is ‘crumbling’
Things are only going to get tougher for gas and coal compared to renewables.
JOE ROMMMAR 29, 2018, 1:34 PM
SOLAR POWER PRICES ARE DROPPING AT RECORD RATES. CREDIT: ACERA.
Bloomberg New Energy Finance (BNEF) report. Since 2010, the prices for lithium-ion batteries — crucial to energy storage — have plummeted a stunning 79 percent (see chart).

LITHIUM-ION BATTERY PRICES HAVE PLUMMETED SINCE 2010 AND ARE PROJECTED TO KEEP DROPPING.
“The economic case for building new coal and gas capacity is crumbling,” as BNEF’s chief of energy economics, Elena Giannakopoulou, told Bloomberg.

At the same time, solar and wind plants — which are increasingly being built with battery storage — are eating into the utilization of existing coal and gas plants, making them far less profitable. For instance, the super-efficient combined-cycle gas turbine (CCGT) plants that have been popular in recent decades, were designed to be used at full power between 60 percent and 90 percent of the time.

But their actual utilization rate (also called the “capacity factor”) has been plummeting in recent years, and is now close to a mere 20 percent in countries as diverse as China, Germany, and India (see chart).

SOLAR AND WIND ARE SQUEEZING OUT COAL AND GAS WORLDWIDE.
Arizona regulators “recently refused to endorse plans by three power companies that included more natural-gas facilities,” the New York Times reportedWednesday. “Commissioners directed them to make greater use of energy storage and plants that produce zero emissions.”

In California, the world’s sixth-biggest economy now mandates that half its power in 2030 be renewable. With solar and wind prices plummeting, NRG Energy recently said it would shutter three gas-fired plants.

And things are only going to get tougher for gas and coal compared to renewables. BNEF’s projection of current and future prices for this country shows that onshore wind (left chart) is already cheaper than coal, and is becoming cheaper than gas. Solar photovoltaics (right chart) is rapidly becoming cheaper than coal and will beat gas within several years.

RENEWABLES DON'T JUST OUT-COMPETE COAL IN AMERICA. WIND POWER AND, INCREASINGLY, SOLAR PHOTOVOLTAICS (PV), CAN BEAT A NATURAL GAS COMBINED-CYCLE GAS TURBINE (CCGT).
Globally, coal, and especially gas, are in even tougher shape. That’s because most places in the world don’t have cheap natural gas from fracking like the United States does.

Also, the biggest new power markets are in developing countries, which don’t have as expansive of an electric grid, again making distributed renewables relatively more attractive. But those countries often have a lot of relatively inexpensive undeveloped land in very sunny places.

According to BNEF’s projection of current and future prices for coal and gas versus wind and solar in China, onshore wind (left chart) is already cheaper than gas and is quickly becoming cheaper than coal. Solar (right chart) is rapidly becoming cheaper than gas and will beat coal within several years.

WITHIN A FEW YEARS, ONSHORE WIND AND SOLAR WILL EACH BEAT BOTH COAL AND GAS IN CHINA.
In the Middle East, the economics of solar power and batteries are so good that SoftBank Group is partnering with Saudi Arabia to build a stunning 200 gigawatts of solar power capacity for $200 billion. This is 100 times larger than the largest solar farm ever proposed.

Softbank said this week that the system will supply “evening hour” power to the Saudis thanks to what will be “the largest utility-scale battery” in two to three years, Bloomberg reported.

The future could not be sunnier for renewables.


Stunning drops in solar, wind costs mean economic case for coal, gas is ‘crumbling’

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Is the tesla power wall still $1500 , has the price of a storage battery the same & is the installer walking away with 15 k per install
 

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This is going to be a win for those American manufacturers that Trump fukked with those tariffs right ?
 

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President Trump defended his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate change agreement by claiming that it would have forced the US to pay money to developing nations, saying: "As far as I’m concerned, we’re developing. Pay us some money. We’re developing.”


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Trump: As far as I'm concerned, the US is a 'developing country'
He called the Paris climate change deal “a disaster for this country."


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You get your black lung just before you lose your job.

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In California, the world’s sixth-biggest economy now mandates that half its power in 2030 be renewable. With solar and wind prices plummeting, NRG Energy recently said it would shutter three gas-fired plants.
Again, this has nothing to do with the complaints about the Trump's since that was dealing with consumer grade solar panels and in particular the jobs lost by small business installers.
 

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President Trump defended his decision to withdraw from the Paris climate change agreement by claiming that it would have forced the US to pay money to developing nations, saying: "As far as I’m concerned, we’re developing. Pay us some money. We’re developing.”

Wow. This guy just admitted he turned the US into a 3rd world country. :snoop:

When is Japan gonna drop those fuel-cell cars and batteries though?
 

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You just talking lol
Just admit you're wrong.

The purpose of the tariffs were to create new jobs. When in reality they're expected to do the opposite.

:cape: for Trump crehs.

In the long run, the tariff seems unnecessary and annoying and less than helpful to the industry and the economy as a whole. That said, I bet that all the solar that was going to get built will still get built; it might just take a bit longer. It will result in some job losses (the opposite of its intention, one would have to believe) and the delay of some zero-carbon electricity production being added to the overall energy mix.
 

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Just admit you're wrong.

The purpose of the tariffs were to create new jobs. When in reality they're expected to do the opposite.

:cape: for Trump crehs.


In California, the world’s sixth-biggest economy now mandates that half its power in 2030 be renewable. With solar and wind prices plummeting, NRG Energy recently said it would shutter three gas-fired plants
 
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