Teachers Fight To Keep Pre-Colonial World History In AP Course

[the cac mamba]

Nah, fam. Negative. This is AP World History. Those kids aren't there to fukk around like it's algebra 1. They know what they're in there for. And they move accordingly. They know how to read, write, and use computers already. They are mature enough to take that class because they know they are taking it for college credit. I know we're quick to sell kids short. But don't be that quick. None of what you're saying is really any different than what college kids do now. Except the college kids are a bit more mature. I'll give you that.

breh you're really ragging on teachers who dont think they can teach kids ten thousand years of history in a fukkin year wouldnt they know better than you?

 

[tru_m.a.c]

College Board is a scam anyway.

It's a laugh to say that these are really "college level" courses. It's just a gigantic money-making endeavor by a monopoly, and in the end all it does for students is sort them according to what neighborhood they're from and thus how strong their schooling was.

Colleges should refuse to give college credit for AP, and high schools should refuse to give the College Board money just to get access to their damn standardized tests and certificates.

How so? I took AP World, US, English Lit, English Lang, and Calc. I thank God I had those options because taking regular classes would've had me sleeping and cutting school. State level assessments are way too easy.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

College professors who teach World History have 3 months to teach it. High school teachers have a whole year to teach it. How is this actually a problem? Why do these institutions of education try so hard to not educate our kids?

I mean. I know the answer. But it's worth asking anyway.

You have them for maybe an hour a day, and also have to teach them how to read, write, speak, use computers, and interact in a mature manner....all of which while they're also learning the basics of math, science, English, art, and a foreign language.
And they're more immature, so generally don't give a shyt about any of it.
College professors can say "go read this long ass book for next week".

The first history class I took in college was on WW2 and the professor literally started the class by saying he was going to reteach us everything we thought we knew because the shyt was wrong.

I don't think any majors require more reprogramming than history and sociology.

 

[Shogun]

The first history class I took in college was on WW2 and the professor literally started the class by saying he was going to reteach us everything we thought we knew because the shyt was wrong.

I don't think any majors require more reprogramming than history and sociology.

Ask three historians a question, get 5 answers.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

breh you're really ragging on teachers who dont think they can teach kids ten thousand years of history in a fukkin year wouldnt they know better than you?

First you quoted the wrong post. Second I didn't rag on anyone. A college professor has an hour per class and 3 months to teach you World History. A HS AP teacher has an hour per class and 9 months to teach you the same material. And clearly, not all teachers agree with what the AP board is claiming. So wouldn't they know better than you?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

How so? I took AP World, US, English Lit, English Lang, and Calc. I thank God I had those options because taking regular classes would've had me sleeping and cutting school. State level assessments are way too easy.

The first history class I took in college was on WW2 and the professor literally started the class by saying he was going to reteach us everything we thought we knew because the shyt was wrong.

I don't think any majors require more reprogramming than history and sociology.

Did you just give props to your AP US History class in one comment and then rubbish the class in the next comment?

The easy answer is that teachers don't need the damn College Board in order to give you a challenging class. If they want to teach an honors class that's more challenging than the regular class, of course they can do that. Every teacher with a history degree is going to be competent to teach something far more advanced than a general-audience history course.

The only "irreplaceable" service the College Board provides is to give the standardized tests and the validation. In exchange, they take your money and force you to adhere to their standards.

Well, the validation is bullshyt because it still ain't college-level history, the standardized tests are bullshyt, their standards are bullshyt, and the money they take is bullshyt.

And the #1 effect is to give even more advantages to well-off students whose districts can afford to offer all that.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

How so? I took AP World, US, English Lit, English Lang, and Calc. I thank God I had those options because taking regular classes would've had me sleeping and cutting school. State level assessments are way too easy.

The first history class I took in college was on WW2 and the professor literally started the class by saying he was going to reteach us everything we thought we knew because the shyt was wrong.

I don't think any majors require more reprogramming than history and sociology.

Did you just give props to your AP US History class in one comment and then rubbish the class in the next comment?

The easy answer is that teachers don't need the damn College Board in order to give you a challenging class. If they want to teach an honors class that's more challenging than the regular class, of course they can do that. Every teacher with a history degree is going to be competent to teach something far more advanced than a general-audience history course.

The only "irreplaceable" service the College Board provides is to give the standardized tests and the validation. In exchange, they take your money and force you to adhere to their standards.

Well, the validation is bullshyt because it still ain't college-level history, the standardized tests are bullshyt, their standards are bullshyt, and the money they take is bullshyt.

And the #1 effect is to give even more advantages to well-off students whose districts can afford to offer all that.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

Did you just give props to your AP US History class in one comment and then rubbish the class in the next comment?

My WW2 class was in a lecture hall with hundreds of students. The professor wasn't directing his comments at me. I think my AP experience was life changing because half the shyt I thought was common sense going into college nobody else had learned about.

Put it this way, in NY you have to take the regents exam to graduate, and if you're in AP classes you have to take both the AP test and the regents. Everyone (no exaggeration) who took the AP classes moonwalked through the regents with high 90s. Our teacher told us to straight up not even study for that shyt because it was such basic information (which it was). In my opinion AP classes should be a mandatory feature in schools.

I was in agreement with you.