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Mantis Toboggan M.D.

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Given up on this team until they clean house
That makes two of us. If they can’t be bothered to make wholesale changes after 13 years of mediocrity (this will be 6 times in 13 years that they’ve missed the playoffs while 2 of the 7 that they have made it had them needing to win the final game of the season to get in), then what reason do we have to tune in? There’s never been a coach who got to stay so long past his expiration date as this guy, and the GM has to go too.
 

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What pisses me off the most is what does Harbs do. Special Teams, trash. Offense, trash. Defense, trash. And then you have your stars making dumb plays on both sides of the ball. I knew this team wouldn't win shyt after that AFCG. A competent coach wins that game and the SB. We would have been to at least two SBs by now if we had a coach who had some idea of what he's doing:pacspit::pacspit::pacspit::pacspit::pacspit::pacspit:
 

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What pisses me off the most is what does Harbs do. Special Teams, trash. Offense, trash. Defense, trash. And then you have your stars making dumb plays on both sides of the ball. I knew this team wouldn't win shyt after that AFCG. A competent coach wins that game and the SB. We would have been to at least two SBs by now if we had a coach who had some idea of what he's doing:pacspit::pacspit::pacspit::pacspit::pacspit::pacspit:
This is what stands out most to me. He genuinely has no tactical acumen whatsoever. No matter who the OC is they can still be trusted to abandon the run for no reason, can’t be trusted to stay aggressive once they take a 2 score lead, have arguably the most predictable play calling in the sport, and never make any meaningful adjustments.


On defense aside from the 1 year of Pagano & the McDonald’s years since Rex left, their defense is super easy to diagnose, the corners always play too far off the receivers, and you can set a stopwatch to them folding in the clutch.

The lack of discipline and attention to detail shows in all aspects of the game. The sloppy ball security, all the penalties. How many different years have his teams led the league in penalties or blown 4th quarter leads? It’s gotta be 3-5 times each by now.

Clock management is a bad joke. Look at his end of the 1st half vs Buffalo this year where he casually gave up 3 points right before halftime and they’d ended up losing the game by 1 point. He’s blown so many end of the half or end of the game situations doing dumb shyt like that.


Good coaches embarrass him. Look at his record against Tomlin, Belichick, Peyton, Andy Reid, & Vrabel. I’d be shocked if he wins even 42-45% of his meetings with that group of guys. His teams always can be counted on to embarrass themselves in big games, but it seems like his worst meltdowns come against them.

He never should have even been allowed to reach the 2023 season at all, let alone be allowed back after putting together what I consider the single worst coached game in the history of organized football. That was the 4th quarter of Super Bowl 51 for Atlanta stretched out to an entire game. Let’s look at this list down here:


The major regression in 2009 with blown leads, bad pass defense, & penalties. In the loss to the colts they get a field goal on the opening drive and don’t score again.


Leading the league in blow 4th quarter leads in 2010 including losses to New England (up 20-10 in the 4th) and at home on Sunday night vs Pittsburgh which cost them both of the top 2 seeds before blowing a 14 point halftime lead in Pittsburgh in the divisional round which came from a total meltdown in all facets of the game. Went with a 3 man rush on 3rd and 19 in a 24-24 game with maybe 5 minutes left and gave up a 50+ yard completion downfield to set up the winning score for the Steelers and TJ drops the ball on 4th down beyond the 1st down marker. They’d have hosted the jets in the afc title game if they won.

Missing the 1 seed in 2011 because they lost 4 games to non playoff teams and then losing the afc title game because his receiver couldn’t hold onto the ball and then he rushes the kicking unit out to avoid a delay of game despite having a TO left.

The mutiny in 2012 and nearly blowing a 28-6 lead in the Super Bowl. Stupid ass Dean Pees called the same play on defense on 4th and 5 for the ravens with the title on the line that he did as the patriots DC in 2007 when they gave up the winning touchdown to Plaxico Burress in Super Bowl 42. Quick shout out to Jimmy Smith saving the title by running through Crabtree’s hands to knock the ball out on 3rd down the play before so that a running play wasn’t viable on 4th down.

Missing the playoffs 4 times in 5 years from 2013-17 after that with blowout losses or the defense folding in the clutch in weeks 16-17 every year with the playoffs on the line and the 1 time they make it in due to 3-4 tiebreakers all going their way in week 17, they blow a pair of 14 point leads vs the pats because they never adjust their pass coverage scheme despite the pats not running the ball even once in the 2nd half. They threw the ball on every play and Harbaugh just stood there with Pees like a deer frozen in the headlights. Rashaan Melvin was thrown at 19 times and they never sent help over the top or benched him. Matt Elam was allowed to play despite grading out as the worst DB in football, leading the league in blown coverages and missed tackles that season. His whiffed tackle on 2nd and 10 on I think Edelman at the line of scrimmage on a screen pass turned into a touchdown on that play in a game they lost by 4.

Not letting Lamar throw the ball until garbage time in the playoff loss to the chargers in 2018

The total implosion in 2019 vs a 9-7 titans squad. 9 drops, both of which by Andrews result in turnovers. The first one set the titans up at the ravens 35 and Tennessee scored a touchdown off it. Over 60 passing plays called compared to 6 runs designed for Ingram. The first Andrews drop was at minimum an 11 point swing and 2 bad decisions to go for it on 4th down burned them immediately too. The first time they go for it on 4th down at their own 45, get stuffed, and allow a 45 yard touchdown the next play. Then they go for it and get stuffed inside the titans 20 while down 14-6 and 2 plays later Derrick Henry rips off a 66 yard run. That’s a fire everyone type of loss.


Look at that history. He should’ve been a distant memory by the time the 2023 season rolled around. Since 2013 they’re going on missing the playoffs 6 times (effectively 7 since they lost Lamar in 2022 but still squeaked in). The last 13 years should’ve gotten any coach canned, but combined with his history before it makes it inexcusable that this owner won’t act. A coach with a clue (let’s say Rex or Billick) would’ve been to and maybe won 2-3 titles from 2008-12 and they’d have probably reached 3 super bowls in the Lamar era too.
 

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He needs to sit out these last 2 games. It’s not worth the risk. Back, toe, knee, ankle, and hamstring injuries in one year now. Just get healthy for 2026.
i agree

just lose these last 2 games and hopefully get a top 10 pick but he said in his presser that he plans on playing
 

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I didnt even know this until I just heard Skip say it but that was Drake Mayes first 300 yard passing game of his career and his first 4th quarter comeback

why every week some team is doing something they never did against us :heh:

I dont think I can watch this team next year if they dont get rid of Harbaugh

if this season doesnt get him fired then nothing will
 

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The lack of discipline and attention to detail shows in all aspects of the game. The sloppy ball security, all the penalties. How many different years have his teams led the league in penalties or blown 4th quarter leads? It’s gotta be 3-5 times each by now.

That was the point in moving on from Billick...injuries for the 2007 season didn't matter. Lack of discipline and sloppiness was no longer tolerated
 
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He needs to sit out these last 2 games. It’s not worth the risk. Back, toe, knee, ankle, and hamstring injuries in one year now. Just get healthy for 2026.

Football players play. Squad is not eliminated.



An ACL can heal in 8 months....he highest paid on team. Nawww...that is not the move at all chief:snoop: :camby:
 

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I didnt even know this until I just heard Skip say it but that was Drake Mayes first 300 yard passing game of his career and his first 4th quarter comeback

why every week some team is doing something they never did against us :heh:

I dont think I can watch this team next year if they dont get rid of Harbaugh

if this season doesn’t get him fired then nothing will
It was the same thing last year. After 11-12 games, every quarterback except Josh Allen had their best game of the season against the ravens defense while they were on pace to give up the most passing yards in a single season ever. I can’t watch this team anymore. I’ve been a fan for 20 years now and I’ve spent 75% of that time hate watching them. It’s been 15 years of going into every season with the mindset of “as long as Harbaugh doesn’t fukk things up, they can grab a high seed and realistically contend” only for him to fukk it all up. I find myself envying my dad and brother since they’re able to turn the games off by Halloween on account of them being jets fans. It’s not supposed to be like that :damn:



That was the point in moving on from Billick...injuries for the 2007 season didn't matter. Lack of discipline and sloppiness was no longer tolerated
This is what gets to me about Billick being fired. A year prior with a broken down Steve McNair they were 13-3. He never got a good quarterback to work with. They went about as far as you can ask them to when the quarterbacks they had in his 9 years were Tony Banks, Trent Dilfer, 1 year of Elvis Grbac, Kyle Boller, Anthony Wright, and then McNair before he disintegrated and they had to go back to Boller. At least try getting him a decent quarterback to work with.
 

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Football players play. Squad is not eliminated.



An ACL can heal in 8 months....he highest paid on team. Nawww...that is not the move at all chief:snoop: :camby:
That’s how Kobe ended up tearing his Achilles. Playing through a bunch of lower body injuries and pushing himself clearly past his limits for a team that wasn’t good and all it got them was a first round sweep at the hands of the spurs. Sometimes the best thing a guy can do is know his limits and protect his health. 15 games in and there’s very few things this team is good at but a bunch of things they’re among the worst in the league at and it’s not like they control their own fate either. If the Steelers beat the 3-12 browns who’ve lost 4 in a row themselves, then they clinch the north anyway which makes week 18 a meaningless game.
 

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dont know how any of these nikkas made the pro bowl

Ro still making pro bowls when he’s been ass for 3 years straight is hilarious

Zay making it with more fumbles than TD is a joke

I think they do this shyt to fukk with certain teams since making pro bowls increases that 5th year option
 
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