The 6 Strangest Libertarian Ideas

[Trajan]

As opposed to having those laws on the books and still being second class citizens...
Only thanks to those laws and the rest of systemic white supremacy we have lost our community and trust of one another.


Govt. got you wit the okie doke.

So where were the rival businesses to replace the segregated ones

 

[88m3]

I can't take Libertarians seriously

 

[GunRanger]

The issue goes beyond restaurants. It's not as trivial as choosing Burger King over McDonald's or vice versa. What if your local bank openly said they do not want black business?

Another bank will spring up to cater to black people ....

Do you have any idea how difficult life would be under an apartheid type of system? I think you're underestimating the unequal distribution of economic power in America.

I find it crazy that members of a historically exploited group would defend legally sanctioned policies that reduces them to second class citizens.

If racist banks didn't want black business, other banks would pop up. There is too much wealth among minorities to a) completely eliminate their business, and b) not have their businesses be catered to. Not too mention the social, and economic problems those businesses would face if they exposed themselves as racists.


Are we living in the same America? The inequality of economic power has only gotten wider since the '60s.


All these policies that claim to help, only help to make hatred covert. So then you look like the crazy black guy when you try and point out the subtle racism, and people have an easy defense against it.

I go back to my prior point: why would you want to give your money to a business that hates you? And let's not act like fighting to get into white businesses, didn't establish the thinking that white businesses are better than black owned ones.

 

[DEAD7]

So where were the rival businesses to replace the segregated ones

From the earliest days, a black middle class emerged in sectors where whites shunned contact with blacks. I'm talking doctors, lawyers, undertakers, beauticians and barbers all that sh*t. Almost immediately, these individuals began to pool their money to create larger independent businesses, support philanthropic organization and fund educational institutions.

Dont let white supremacy trick you into believing we have always needed or looked to state provision to unf*ck us.

 

[Sunalmighty]

“… the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.”




I dont see how anyone can disagree with that statement. Ask yourself, wouldn't you want to know if a business is racist/prejudice? I want restaurants to tell me they hate minorities, so then I know not to eat there. Instead, people want to pretend like they're all equal.

Didn't MLK say something along the lines of integration being a mistake. I was reading about that a while back.

 

[Sunalmighty]

“… the Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not improve race relations or enhance freedom. Instead, the forced integration dictated by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 increased racial tensions while diminishing individual liberty.”




I dont see how anyone can disagree with that statement. Ask yourself, wouldn't you want to know if a business is racist/prejudice? I want restaurants to tell me they hate minorities, so then I know not to eat there. Instead, people want to pretend like they're all equal.

Here it is

Martin Luther King Jr. talking to Harry Belafonte: “I said, ‘What’s the matter, Martin? You seem very agitated.’ He said, ‘Well, I am, because I’ve come upon a thought that I don’t know how to deal with at this moment.’ I said, ‘Well, what is it?’ He said, ‘We’ve fought long for integration. It looks like we’re gonna get it. I think we’ll get the laws,” he says. “But I’m afraid that I’ve come upon something that I don’t know quite what to do with. I’m afraid that we’re integrating into a burning house.’”

 

[Trajan]

If racist banks didn't want black business, other banks would pop up. There is too much wealth among minorities to a) completely eliminate their business, and b) not have their businesses be catered to. Not too mention the social, and economic problems those businesses would face if they exposed themselves as racists.

So how come this didn't happen in the 50s? Those businesses were as prosperous as ever.

To some business owners minority business might worth losing in order not to alienate their core customers. Zimmerman received millions in donations for free. I don't think racist business owners will be hurting.


''Not too mention the social, and economic problems those businesses would face if they exposed themselves as racists.''

The stigma comes from the fact that discrimination is illegal. Why weren't white people boycotting segregated restaurants back in the day?

Sometimes people have to be coerced into doing the right thing.

You can practice group economics and still have access to the services everyone else has.

 

[GunRanger]

So how come this didn't happen in the 50s? Those businesses were as prosperous as ever.

To some business owners minority business might worth losing in order not to alienate their core customers.

Because the culture, the economy, and media was different. Now there's too much access to information, and the ability to spread it within minutes.


Businesses who think minorities are worth losing - why should minorities support them? If they can do well without them, let them. I don't beg for acceptance.

The stigma comes from the fact that discrimination is illegal. Why weren't white people boycotting segregated restaurants back in the day?

Sometimes people have to be coerced into doing the right thing.

The stigma comes from being racist. Non-racists don't want to be associated with it, neither do corporations, and not all racists want to be exposed. Disney tries to hide Songs of The South as much as possible, so much so they never have re-released it. Mozilla fired their CEO because he was anti-gay marriage. Look at how many sponsors pulled out from the Clippers, when they didn't have to, and that was the main impetus to get rid of Sterling. All of it stemming from public pressure, and none of it was because of the law.

 

[Scientific]

libertarian to me seems to always be used when you don't want associate with the religious aspect of conservatism. Too many people make up their definition.

 

[Strapped]

we aint buying this bullshieeet

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

1. Parents should be allowed to let their children starve to death.

2. We must deregulate companies like Uber, even when they cheat.

3. We should eliminate Social Security and medicare.

4. Society doesn’t have the right to enforce basic justice in public places of business.

5. Selflessness is vile.

6. Democracy is unacceptable, especially since we began feeding poor people and allowing women to vote.

 

[CHL]

Can a libertarian respond to this hypothetical (found it on Salon).

"If I found a libertarian lying in the ditch, severely bleeding after having gotten into a car accident, I would



1: First, I would ask him if it were ok to use his phone, or ask him for contact information for a loved one. You will see why in a minute



2: I would then proceed to extort him for everything he owned in return for my help, all the way up to lifetime indentured servitude



3: If he refuses, I would use the phone numbers I obtained in Step #1 to extort his family members



4: If they balked, I would calmly move some brush between the damaged car and the road, do my best to hide the tire tracks leading off into the ditch, and go home.



5: A few days later, I would come back and loot the corpse



All of this is totally permissible within the libertopian framework, and any framework which permits - indeed encourages - such behavior is beyond vile."

 

[DEAD7]

Can a libertarian respond to this hypothetical (found it on Salon).

"If I found a libertarian lying in the ditch, severely bleeding after having gotten into a car accident, I would



1: First, I would ask him if it were ok to use his phone, or ask him for contact information for a loved one. You will see why in a minute



2: I would then proceed to extort him for everything he owned in return for my help, all the way up to lifetime indentured servitude



3: If he refuses, I would use the phone numbers I obtained in Step #1 to extort his family members



4: If they balked, I would calmly move some brush between the damaged car and the road, do my best to hide the tire tracks leading off into the ditch, and go home.



5: A few days later, I would come back and loot the corpse



All of this is totally permissible within the libertopian framework, and any framework which permits - indeed encourages - such behavior is beyond vile."

"Extortion is permissible within the libertopian framework"

Coercion, aggression, and the initiation of force

Try again.