The absence of Funk's influence is a big reason for the disconnect between old and new Hip Hop.

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Funk was the culmination of all Black American music made up until that point (Gospel, Blues, Jazz, R&B, Soul), and was created by some of the absolute best musicians from those genres that wanted more freedom in their musical expression.

It was the music of the 70's in Black America, and was the main influence on Hip Hop's sound from the late 70s to the early 00s.

The drums that fueled most of the classic hip hop records from that time were lifted mostly from Funk records, the bass lines that drove these records were mostly Funk inspired, and the melodies/rhythms from Funk or Funk inspired records provided an infinite source of samples, ideas, and inspiration.

Artist's born in the 60's/ 70's/early 80's were raised in households and environments were funk music and funk inspired R&B, Soul, and Jazz was THE music of the black community.

We were raised on shyt like this...



















My theory is kids born from the late 90s on, were more influenced by the internet than their families/communities musically, and the music being made today is a reflection of that.

A lot of us older cats were late to the internet movement, and by the time we got our footing, youngins was already on some way other shyt, so the shyt we was talking about was foreign to them.

Correct me if you feel I'm wrong..

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I am in my 20s...

Listening to 90s Hip Hop was like a lesson in Black American Music History since I would always look up the samples and find the artists...

These new artists don't care about Black American Music like that...

They care about Hip Hop...and I mean Hip Hop from a very minute and specific time period...like Hip Hop between 2004 to 2008...

I am talking 50 Cent, Wayne, Kanye West, TPain...

Hip Hop Artists that were on the scene in the 90s had shyt from other genres...the grew up with Soul, Disco and Funk


Hip Hop been moving away from sampling to compositions because...producers and artists want all their money...you can't just take shyt these days...

Now there are still samples...I mean the Weeknd's music sample heavy as fukk...

But they are from genres like Alt Rock, New Wave, and shyt like that...

Sometimes they even sample some shyt from a year ago...

Lil Uzi uses a lot of samples...but it ain't Soul and etc...

Drake uses samples a lot still but it's newer RnB...

Sampling is more broad now and sometimes artists might even sample a fukking bassline from a Soul record and build an entire trap beat over it and you don't know that there's even a sample in it...

Nowadays there are producers that make samples for producers to sample lmao...

I think artists that are in Hip Hop and have a soul/funk type vibe...go more so all the way into the genre...

Artists like Goldlink and Anderson Paak...might be more funk/dancey than you know Dr.Dre and Pharrell making Hip Hop with funk influence..

But I think it's cool...

I doubt Hip Hop heads that grew up with shyt like Bambatta and Warp 9 could fukk with NWA or Dr.Dre...it's a whole different vibe...

Just think how jarring to go from this as Hip Hop




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tuckgod

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Sampling oldies from any genre...

Nah, groove based, funk music.

These cats still sample like the post up top excellently pointed out, but the sample sources are based on internet influence from all over the place, not rooted in the Black music that came before it.

Not saying it's right or wrong, just theorizing that it is responsible for the disconnect.
 
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