The Boy Simmons - He Pass Like Magic & He Shoot Like Tragic

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Watching this kid tonight in the Summer league..4/7 and 4...:ehh:.he see the floor like he psychic or sum shyt..:leon: but gotdamn...this nikka jumper make Bron's look like Klay Thompson :wow:But I still like dude tho....6'10..:ahh:..already got an NBA body...:ahh: This nikka will average 25 and 7 in his sleep once his shot catch up with his skill set :ohlawd: problem is...we gotta wait 3, 4 years to see it...:sadbron:

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Cant create a good shot, his passes are sloppy and turnover prone

Can't even hit a open small J


This nikka don't even belong in the league :mjlol:

Can't create a good post....:wow:

Can't even make a solid point....:wow:


This nikka got a minus -1700 rep :mjlol:












Oh and he got Negged for the 68th time in his illustrious Coli Career :krs:
 

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I've watched all his SL Games and here's my scouting report:

His game is sloppy as hell. Offensively he is very, very basic. People are saying, "wait till he gets his jumper" but as it is dude barely has any creativity or ability when penetrating either. He tries to do the LBJ straight line drive but lacks the explosiveness and usually gets closed off, at which point, he kicks out for a pass. He doesn't have any counter moves to set himself up when that drive gets stopped, and while his handle is tight for 6'10" he doesn't know how to use it to break down defenders. LeBron at 18 was legit 100x more offensively advanced than Simmons right now, and a better shooter to boot.

When he DOES manage to have a successful drive, he's a surprisingly WEAK finisher. He's one of those players with a robust physique especially for being a rookie, but he gives me the "big for nothing" kind of vibe. He doesn't really use his strength to impose his will on anything. He's afraid of contact on drives and prefers to go finesse, often settling for these weird 1 handed hook-floater shots instead of jumping into the nikka's chest. He's a pretty poor finisher thus far through SL and hasn't show me much of any ability to adjust in air and make impressive lay-ups.

When he gets the ball on offense, you can tell he looks like he wants to score, but doesn't know what to do. While passing is instinctive and natural for him, scoring is not. It's very apparent that he's thinking of what to do and this usually results in overdribbling, sloppy, ugly post-ups, or shut-down drives, which eventually end up in him passing. He tries to be flashy with almost every pass he throws so people get so caught up in the flash that they don't realize it's the 8th possession in the row where the number 1 pick got clamped by some guy who was playing in Cairo this past year.

His jumper is trash. And he has zero confidence in it, to make matters worse. It's Summer League and he's the number 1 pick. He literally has nothing to lose. He's not fighting for a contract. And even then, he's still afraid to take jumpshots against the defense. Pretty much all the other big names drafted after him have had at least 1 if not 2 offensively impressive SL games where you could see the flashes. Even Buddy Hield who is shooting like shyt out there has shown me he's going to be a capable scorer and is waaaay more than just a shooter like many declared.

That being said. He's an incredible passer. It's natural for him, it's like he's got 360 degree vision. He's a great rebounder. And he's big and athletic. He has a skillset that's pretty rare in the league meaning that even if he doesn't pan out he's still going to be on a roster as a contributor for a long time--a la Lamar Odom and Iguodala. But right now, he's NO superstar.
 

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I've watched all his SL Games and here's my scouting report:

His game is sloppy as hell. Offensively he is very, very basic. People are saying, "wait till he gets his jumper" but as it is dude barely has any creativity or ability when penetrating either. He tries to do the LBJ straight line drive but lacks the explosiveness and usually gets closed off, at which point, he kicks out for a pass. He doesn't have any counter moves to set himself up when that drive gets stopped, and while his handle is tight for 6'10" he doesn't know how to use it to break down defenders. LeBron at 18 was legit 100x more offensively advanced than Simmons right now, and a better shooter to boot.

When he DOES manage to have a successful drive, he's a surprisingly WEAK finisher. He's one of those players with a robust physique especially for being a rookie, but he gives me the "big for nothing" kind of vibe. He doesn't really use his strength to impose his will on anything. He's afraid of contact on drives and prefers to go finesse, often settling for these weird 1 handed hook-floater shots instead of jumping into the nikka's chest. He's a pretty poor finisher thus far through SL and hasn't show me much of any ability to adjust in air and make impressive lay-ups.

When he gets the ball on offense, you can tell he looks like he wants to score, but doesn't know what to do. While passing is instinctive and natural for him, scoring is not. It's very apparent that he's thinking of what to do and this usually results in overdribbling, sloppy, ugly post-ups, or shut-down drives, which eventually end up in him passing. He tries to be flashy with almost every pass he throws so people get so caught up in the flash that they don't realize it's the 8th possession in the row where the number 1 pick got clamped by some guy who was playing in Cairo this past year.

His jumper is trash. And he has zero confidence in it, to make matters worse. It's Summer League and he's the number 1 pick. He literally has nothing to lose. He's not fighting for a contract. And even then, he's still afraid to take jumpshots against the defense. Pretty much all the other big names drafted after him have had at least 1 if not 2 offensively impressive SL games where you could see the flashes. Even Buddy Hield who is shooting like shyt out there has shown me he's going to be a capable scorer and is waaaay more than just a shooter like many declared.

That being said. He's an incredible passer. It's natural for him, it's like he's got 360 degree vision. He's a great rebounder. And he's big and athletic. He has a skillset that's pretty rare in the league meaning that even if he doesn't pan out he's still going to be on a roster as a contributor for a long time--a la Lamar Odom and Iguodala. But right now, he's NO superstar.

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@360...I will say this...the boy is unselfish to a fault...I can already see Skip talking that "he lack the Mamba instinct " :childplease: And he does not finish well...has the same move to the basket .. the nikka really do remind me if a young Bron :ohhh: but plenty of time to improve...:obama:
 
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Word? Astute observation, who woulda thought superstars were made in Summer league. Need to pay more attention.
They're certainly not but when you're anointed to be a LeBron caliber talent I expect you to come in and show me something in the SL. Simmons can pass and rebound but if you think the guy we're watching currently has the offensive skillset to carry a franchise then...:mjlol:

LeBron had a streaky shot and no post-game coming into the League but outside of that there wasn't anything on a basketball court he couldn't do offensively. And for all his shooting woes as we all know with Bron and as has been the story of his career--when he's hot he's HOT. It's one thing to ask a player to develop some kind of jumper. It's a completely different thing to ask a player to develop an entire offensive game and currently Ben Simmons doesn't have that. No jumper. Weak finisher. Not very creative at breaking down defenders. Just calling it like I see it. :manny:
 

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He's got to get some kind of jumper. I'm sure he'll get better in that department. His court vision and passing are top notch but he's got to know when to shoot the ball and not go for some flashy pass hoping for an assist. It hurts the team and their scoring opportunities
 
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