THE DEFIANT ONES: HBO/Dr. Dre & Jimmy Iovine Docuseries (July 9th - 12th)
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Wear My Dawg's Hat
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The whole Jimmy didn't know thing is utterly preposterous
So Jimmy moved deathrow office closed to him and DOC told a story about a nikka getting beat damn near to death in his office and their was blood everywhere and somehow that happened and the office got cleaned up and JImmy didn't know
It should have been on the HBO suits to say to the director that he couldn't leave all of these inconsistencies unaddressed.
Good filmmaking provides story conflict to hook us in. The conflicts and contradictions here were ignored.
Dirty D
Vikes & Raptors 4 Life
Doug Morris banned Suge from some office buildings, so it wasn't just black people Suge was showing out on. It's more people with power who can do things for him vs those without it, plus how far he felt he was getting pushed.
The focus of the doc is Jimmy and Dre. Pac beating down the Hughes bros isn't a must-include in their narrative.
The echoing of the Troublesome 96 chorus during the Vegas scenes underlined the idea that Pac's recklessness and bravado led to his death. I thought that was a well-executed touch.
There's a lot of reading between the lines as you watch this doc. Iovine is obviously mob-connected, and you can't really tell the whole Suge and Dre story without Michel'le and what went on those 5 months when Dre was in jail in early 1995. That seems to be when control of Death Row definitively transitioned from Dre to Suge. And depending on what the actual facts surrounding Tupac's death were, there is certainly a lot there that will never be spoken on.
TheDarceKnight
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I mean, they had friction, right? This doc is produced by Dre and Jimmy, right? I figured they wouldn't go much into 50. I was actually surprised that they covered some of the stuff that they did in the 2nd two episodes.
TheDarceKnight
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What the fukk did you want him to do?
At that point intime, 2pac was the biggest star (in any genre) in music.
Just got out of jail, 2 consecutive no. 1 albums with another on the way on the biggest label in rap.
Like Jimmy Iovine, this old White motherfukker was supposed to like sit 2pac down like he was a child and say,"Now, 2pac, don't say mean things to Biggie"
Also, for what it's worth, it seems to also match with Jimmy's idea of wanting to not fukk with artists very much, right? I mean Trent Reznor was saying he didn't want anyone in the studio or bothering him, and that he'd deliver the product, and Jimmy said okay. And there was another point where Jimmy was saying even with all the heat from the media, that he thought it was important to let all of his artists live their lives and that leaving them alone would lead to better music. I could be way off. I don't know all that much about Jimmy Iovine besides this documentary.
A young Ice Cube mocking DOC losing his voice 
Cube might have left Ruthless but the Ruthless didn't leave him.
Cube might have left Ruthless but the Ruthless didn't leave him.
OGBobbyJohnson
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Watching part 2..I knew about the D.O.C accident but knowing the full story & seeing him listen back to his vocals before the accident was fukkin sad smh..Him saying he had the world in the palm of his hands 
& it was because he was a beast on the mic
& it was because he was a beast on the mic
BK The Great
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gonna watch part 3 now, probably will be done by tomorrow. the first 2 episodes were dope.
I finished it. Leaves you wanting more.
Me too. Would have missed that Jeopardy question.
First time hearing Dre say anything about Suge in years.
Dre calling Suge "stupid ass motherfukker"
I think thats the 1st time I ever heard Dre openly say something sideways about Suge.
I think thats the 1st time I ever heard Dre openly say something sideways about Suge.