The end is near: Album sales fall to lowest ever in US

[The_King_of_Everything]

that will never, never happen americans will never like that shyt. That shyt is irrelevant to people who aren't asians.

that has to do with the death of the super producer. And its like that bc thats the only music that sells

My sister and her friends are black and Hispanic and they like that shyt I'm telling you it's coming

 

[Wild self]

that will never, never happen americans will never like that shyt. That shyt is irrelevant to people who aren't asians.

that has to do with the death of the super producer. And its like that bc thats the only music that sells

The super producer killed themselves because they overcharged for beats and only let the big money artists get to them, which, back in the early 00s was for trash ass rappers.

Creativity is only valued in American society when it comes down to dollars. Same with Art. Same with anything. Kids when it comes to school are taught to be employees and group thinkers first and individuals and creatives second.

I'm not surprised at these results though...the commerce of art essentially killed it.

They cut down art and music programs in America and they enforce standardized testing like fascism. Not a coincidence. Lack of free-thinking and innovation in every aspect of life and society will doom us all. The 808s and snares of the southern variation, on top of the trap scene (the car culture, the strip clubs) was the perfect way to neuter the soul, that was filled with creativity and rebellious words with a selfless cause.

 

[Wild self]

My sister and her friends are black and Hispanic and they like that shyt I'm telling you it's coming

Look at Adele and Joss Stone. 2 foreign (white) women that can sing better than today's garbage is proof that America outsourced talent for quick money. America ate itself up with its greed.

 

[PHamm]

last albums I paid for were gkmc & undun


2013 was the only year I didn't buy any album well it was also the weakest year in hip hop history

 

[Hammer]

Eminem sold like half the albums in usa this year

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

They have begun restructuring deals... & Trinidad James lied about how much he signed for. Dude got less then $100k upfront because it was a SINGLE deal that was WORTH $2 Mil (in the end an album) *IF* he completed all his options in his contract which he has not. These artists are allowed to lie about their deals & overcook the numbers because it adds to the their perception which equals more dollars in the end. I have a friend in talks right now with Atlantic & his new "Standard" deal includes a $250,000 budget with ZERO physical manufacturing until he can prove to move over 100,000 Digital Albums off of iTunes. They're bringing back "Artist Development" because the internet has made so many people lazy that these artists get signed off of strictly how hot they are on Social Media but then don't want to put in any real work (Chief Keef for example... didn't show up to his own signing party or video shoot) so they've been signing artists to lower deals with lower expectations and are allowing them to grow & develop a fanbase by releasing Digital EP's, being opening slots on bigger artists tours & all have an opportunity to put out a physical album once they've proven they're big enough to.

Look for a LOT of new acts to drop EP's before albums & now Digital Albums before Physical ones... Justin Bieber & Trey Songz showed labels a new model of how this can work & they've been adapting. Sevyn Streeter just dropped an EP that's hovering around 50k Sales total right now off of 1 Single. When she drops her new Single if she passes the 100k mark Atlantic will reward her an album. It's a lot of artists that came out last year under this new method & some have failed horribly (Mayer Hawthorne & Jay Sean for example) while a few artists like Sevyn are growing in popularity & demand...

It's a great thing because it allows both underground & mainstream to pick & choose their future Stars... but these complaining ass underground nikkas gotta start supporting or else we'll just see more of the same caliber of artists we've been seeing...

When i say RESTRUCTURE THE DEALS I'm talking POINTS and ROYALTIES...

Not the business model of incentitves and sales benchmarks which solely benifit the label

the Points an artist recieve on an album and single are still the standard pathetic 2 points.which equals out to about 30 cents or less per dollar generated

and the digital era hasnt made it any better

Pandora is still handing out 11 cent per stream...and lets not talk about the upfront cuts that stores like ITUNES and CD BABY demand from the jump

one pf my artist has a.digital distribition deal on the table

but these lazy greedy fukks at the label want 80% of the royalties even thought the bulk pf the expenses will ne coming out the pocket of my company

its still the same peasent debt ridden deals of the past

nothing has changed..its actually got WORST

When u consider VEVO which is basically a collection agency for the Majors has basically found away to extort ad revenue from youtube that artists will barely get crumbs from

And don't tell me some bullshyt about labels bringing back artist development

They got artists and indys out here SHARECROPPING and doing all the legwork while they reap the bulk of the profits and hold on to control of the intellectual property

that's what is happening with movements like TDE and T.I.G (rich homie.trinidad) they are basically the subcontractors doing all the labor i.e artist development..street promotion that the majors should be doing

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

When i say RESTRUCTURE THE DEALS I'm talking POINTS and ROYALTIES...

Not the business model of incentitves and sales benchmarks which solely benifit the label

the Points an artist recieve on an album and single are still the standard pathetic 2 points.which equals out to about 30 cents or less per dollar generated

and the digital era hasnt made it any better

Pandora is still handing out 11 cent per stream...and lets not talk about the upfront cuts that stores like ITUNES and CD BABY demand from the jump

one pf my artist has a.digital distribition deal on the table

but these lazy greedy fukks at the label want 80% of the royalties even thought the bulk pf the expenses will ne coming out the pocket of my company

its still the same peasent debt ridden deals of the past

Ok I see what you meant I misunderstood...

And as far as Artist Development... you're right... I worded it wrong as hell... not so much that artist development is back but Moreso they're not dropping artists after one failure anymore and are allowing them to continue to use the labels resources to grow their brand whereas before if you didn't go Gold or Plat out the gate you were thrown in the bushes immediately. They're letting artists prove themselves more now but that also just means labels are in fact getting lazier and lazier because they're just cutting checks and letting artists "teams" do everything they are supposed to take care of... A.D. was the wrong term for that I should've been more clear...

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

Ok I see what you meant I misunderstood...

And as far as Artist Development... you're right... I worded it wrong as hell... not so much that artist development is back but Moreso they're not dropping artists after one failure anymore and are allowing them to continue to use the labels resources to grow their brand whereas before if you didn't go Gold or Plat out the gate you were thrown in the bushes immediately. They're letting artists prove themselves more now but that also just means labels are in fact getting lazier and lazier because they're just cutting checks and letting artists "teams" do everything they are supposed to take care of... A.D. was the wrong term for that I should've been more clear...

Its all good mane..I'm just venting after feeling like I'm getting the run around by this digital distribution label all month

and when u spoke of them restructuring it just opened a can of worms

Such as the fact that why are labels charging breakage fees for artists with digital releases!!??

This entertainment lawyer addresses it in this video



its just ridiculous how the business model had changed but yet the record industry haven't revised their ways of dong artist contracts

Especially on the back end..they still maintain leverage of royalties and content

even though the ball game has changed dramatically and THEY knew this for years

which explains all the incompetent handling and marketing of physical cds and undershipment of albums

they basically helped lower the CD into the grave but wanna blame artist sales and fans downloading

sounds like SABOTAGE to me

Back in 2006 the EMI records ceo declared the CD as "dead"

And that major labels have to realize they are no longer in the Record and CD business but were basically in the SERVICE INDUSTRY where they have to form partnerships with the itunes..google and pandoras who were more effective. at delivering content

by offering single bundles....and subscriptions

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/emi-music-ceo-says-the-cd-as-it-is-right-now-is-dead.95169/

So now as a result the labels and content providers are now doubleteaming or basically runnning trains on the artists financially

tunecore for example offers to distribute your shyt for a cost of course and then charges you.for placements in difital stores such as google play and arena..its pathetic..its hi tech rape

 

[Ninjaz In Paris]

Its all good mane..I'm just venting after feeling like I'm getting the run around by this digital distribution label all month

and when u spoke of them restructuring it just opened a can of worms

Such as the fact that why are labels charging breakage fees for artists with digital releases!!??

This entertainment lawyer addresses it in this video



its just ridiculous how the business model had changed but yet the record industry haven't revised their ways of dong artist contracts

Especially on the back end..they still maintain leverage of royalties and content

even though the ball game has changed dramatically and THEY knew this for years

which explains all the incompetent handling and marketing of physical cds and undershipment of albums

they basically helped lower the CD into the grave but wanna blame artist sales and fans downloading

sounds like SABOTAGE to me

Back in 2006 the EMI records ceo declared the CD as "dead"

And that major labels have to realize they are no longer in the Record and CD business but were basically in the SERVICE INDUSTRY where they have to form partnerships with the itunes..google and pandoras who were more effective. at delivering content

by offering single bundles....and subscriptions

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/emi-music-ceo-says-the-cd-as-it-is-right-now-is-dead.95169/

So now as a result the labels and content providers are now doubleteaming or basically runnning trains on the artists financially

tunecore for example offers to distribute your shyt for a cost of course and then charges you.for placements in difital stores such as google play and arena..its pathetic..its hi tech rape

It wouldn't happen to be INGrooves would it? If not then I would definitely get in contact with them as they seem to be pretty reputable...

Also ur 100% correct... It's very shady that while budgets are lowering the royalties and points for artists haven't been adjusted so artists are making less then before...

I have a friend signed to Def Jam that out a Single out over the Summer... a million views later and even being spun consistently in 15 different cities they felt it wasn't enough to continue to put money behind him so they cut his already low budget. Sure he's still signed and he still has the resources available but they just threw his EP out (unmixed) last month & stopped caring so he's looking for someone to back him which sucks because the label is supposed to provide funding...

 

[beenz]

Last album I paid for was Watch the Throne

man last album I bought was stillmatic. and even back then, I knew how to download entire albums for free.

 

[prophecypro]

Lets be real its actually been on the decline for 10 years and its only hit everyone in the past 4 but by the time we were all getting groups, boards and sharefile sites, for Hip Hop it was the end back in 04 even despite big sellers back then