The Fatal Failures of the #ADOS Phenomenon

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  1. xoxodede

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    I am. That's why I said it. Some were. It was not rare.

    Well, without reciprocity there can be no unity.

    That's like saying - we become friends and you don't ever call me, come see me, have any care about me. I am not going to take that for long. No reciprocity -- leads to no unity - no friendship.
     
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    I never said I am against ADOS. I am ADOS. I am for reparations. fukk are you talking about?

    I feel as though the term is redundant and the approach of a lot of those among the movement are taking to berate Africa is terrible, short sighted, and something that would have all of our greatest political leaders rolling in their graves. Only a simple minded idiot trump supporter troll bytch ass nikka like your self would think these simple criticisms are blasphemy.
     
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    If the point of the movement is creating unity, then the absence of unity is evidence that there is still work to be done, not evidence that we should be giving up. Our family in Africa has had to deal with political unrest, war, lack of resources, corrupt governments, and several other problems that in some cases are self inflicted but in most cases are caused by American/European/Chinese imperialism and colonialism. I'll point my guns at the big dogs, especially the system of white supremacy, while trying to create unity with my lost family in Africa instead of shytting on the victims of my same oppressors.
     
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  4. xoxodede

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    Sure, but at this time -- it aint about them. Also, we share skintone and a common place where our ancestors came from. But, that is about it.

    That's fine - that you want to push this -- but it's so tiresome and derailing for you to insert yourself into ADOS conversation. If you are not trying to help.

    Initially, slaves were captured primarily through state organized raids and warfare, but as the trade progressed, the environment of ubiquitous insecurity caused individuals to turn on others—including friends and family members—and to kidnap, trick, and sell each other into slavery (Sigismund Wilhelm Koelle 1854; P. E. H. Hair 1965; Charles Piot 1996).

    This finding is consistent with the historical fact that by the end of the slave trade, it was not uncommon for individuals to be sold into slavery by neighbors, friends, and family members.

    Data on the manner of enslavement in the nineteenth century confirm the descriptive evidence: by the end of the slave trade, individuals entered slavery in a variety of ways, including by being sold into slavery by acquaintances, friends, and family. https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/nunn/files/nunn_wantchekon_aer_2011.pdf
    I have more sources -- but I don't feel like finding and posting.

     
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    its not redundant :umad:
    in order for us to make a specific claim for reparations in america we have to be a specific group, which is ados

    only someone who is a cac troll would act oblivious to that fact
     
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    exposed @dj-method-x again :russ:
     
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    I agree, which is why I am absolutely perplexed as to why an argument against Pan-Africanism and shytting on africans and other black immigrants is such a common thread amongst the ADOS movement.

    Yep, our culture and heritage was strategically stripped away from us by our slave owners. By further dismissing our ancestors in Africa, we are just accepting the terms our oppressors laid down on us. I'm cool on that.

    Only those that are comforted by the emotions generated by misinformation would feel like correcting that misinformation is derailment.

    The Slave Trade - Constitutional Rights Foundation

    "How did an African become a slave? At first, white slave traders simply went on kidnapping raids, but this proved too dangerous for the Europeans. Instead, they established hundreds of forts and trading stations along Africa’s West Coast. Local African rulers and black merchants delivered captured people to these trading posts to sell as slaves to European ship captains.

    About 50 percent of the slaves were taken as prisoners during the frequent tribal wars occurring among the West African kingdoms. Another 30 percent became slaves as punishment for crimes or indebtedness. The remainder were kidnapped by black slave traders"

    If a slave trade started today in America, you'd have a couple of c00ns that were kidnapping and selling off their own. That's not a reason to write off your entire history and heritage in Africa, I'm sorry. It's a damn shame that some people look for any reason to further the disunity of the diaspora when that's one of the ONLY answers we have for toppling white supremacy.
     
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    #noblackagendanoblackvote

    :umad:
     
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  9. xoxodede

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    It wasn't a couple.

    Sure, many of them were taken as prisoners of war -- but even before the TransAtlantic Slave Trade - they were doing this. But, MANY were sold into slavery by people they knew - some where family members -- it is what it is. And guess what -- sadly - some are still doing it today!

    The link you posted linked - doesn't list a source for their stats BTW.

    I did find it here -- it looks like they came up with them -- without listing how. The two source at the bottom of the piece does not include what you posted. I will post some links and sources from Black and White scholars and historians who are experts in the Slave Trade - or I will send you a message with the links.

    Cause I don't want to make this thread into this.

    Here's the link: Glory Upload

    [​IMG]
     
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    My point still remains, the vast majority of slaves were not sold by there own family/friends. Evidence of the contrary does not mean we should give up fighting for a better united global black populace.
     
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    Everybody is complicit in that great of evil. I am not gonna let anybody of the hook.

    I ain't letting off the people that thought slavery was okay. I ain't letting off people that had slaves. I ain't letting off the people that made their money from slaves. Our had their tribe legacy being known as a great slave owning people. Or the people that saw a slave and didn't free the slave. Or the people that watched slaves being mistreated.

    West Africa was a slave society. I want nothing to do with that. They had slaves. I come from slaves-exclusively. I am exclusively a member of an underclass. I identify with slaves, that were on the boat.

    Plenty third-worlders feel the same way about first-worlders and I am okay with that because it's true. When evil exist, people allow to it by following the rules. The 1st world is sick. I own a Mac-Book, that means somebody was in a factory working 16 hours to make it. Somebody might even died making this thing I am typing on. Some kids in Africa somewhere mined the raw materials to make it. And by buying the shyt, I agreed to their condition. Does matter if I work a job and make $8.25?

    What kind of person do you have to be, to sit here and be like, "Yeah, but I make $8.25 and I work 12 hours."

    When people are jumping off of balconies because they been worked to death to make a MacBook?

    People gonna have to come to terms with the evil that they support and allow because they are comfortable in it. My Macbook and Google Pixel 2 is a product of evil, somebody died making this and obviously I am okay with it because I ain't doing nothing to stop it. Sure, I am a wage slave and not a capitalist but it's better than being a child miner or a factory worker. If some Third Worlder socialist is gonna call me out on that, I ain't gonna oppose them because it's true.

    There are plenty of White people that don't come from slave owners, but dirt poor share-croppers, you think we should let them off the hook too?

    Being a slave in Africa and being a slave in the Americas are two totally different things. Predominantly, a slave in West Africa had the same status of an indentured servant in the colonial USA. Entire African kingdoms were full of nothing but slaves but they weren't treated like property. (Ancient Greece and Rome were mostly full of slaves too). Some were able to marry who they want, own property, and etc. Not saying it's good, it's terrible, but it ain't chattel slavery. There were other forms of slavery in Africa but chattel was not the dominant one like it was in the Americas.

    I am sure the typical slave in Africa would not want to switch places with the typical slave in Brazil or Cuba or South Carolina. Just like working 12 hours for $8.25 in the 1st world, is not the same as being some factory worker in the 3rd world, working 16 hours and sleeping 20 to a room so us lazy ass first worlders can have a the new iPhone or the latest fashion.

    My kind of people, started with the slave ship. I am part of the New World and revolutionary history of the New World, I am not a member of the Old World. It's clear political and socioeconomic distinction I am making.
     
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    well step one is uniting our own right here in america

    and thats what ados is for, cant unite a whole world if we aint united


    if you dont like it go handle that other shyt ya damn self :umad:
     
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    Who were you trying to unite when you wrote this?

    Its best that black males always be lower than white males

    @xoxodede get ya man’s

    :camby:
     
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    @xoxodede Good work in this thread [​IMG] I know that shyt has to be exhausting my lord...Dude is relentless
     

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