the first good list Complex has done. 90's babies, admit it, rap was better in 90's.

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Cool article. Every point made has been argued by the average 90's Hip Hop head..... i actually went thru each page because it was very insightful. And yes Hip Hop entertainment (not culture) was a lot more colorful in the 90's. A lot of good points were made. But in the end that era is over and we are in a new era.
 

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People are biased to whatever era they grew up in. Same thing for sports

I'm not biased at all. My only gripe is the lack of growth. When Thugmotivation 101 dropped it was hot in the streets and with the kids.....But to me it sounded like something that should have came out on No Limit in 1997. The drug dealer era was old to me yet Trap Music was the new/old thing in 2005. I thought that by 2005 we would have elevated past all that....But we didnt and we still haven't. But on the same note i accept the now because it is what it is.
 

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You may not be biased but most people are, it's natural. My dad grew up in the 70's, you can't tell that nikka that that era wasnt the GOAT in music. But it's understandable because that's what he grew up on. Just like people who grew up in the 80's will say that's the GOAT, people in the 90's say that's the GOAT, and people today will say this is the GOAT. Same thing for sports, fashion, entertainment etc

At the end of the day it's all opinion anyway
 

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I won't be reading because it's Complease :shaq2:

But, as a 90s kid, you already know. :pachaha:
 

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We can look back on our era and be like :obama: with no regrets.

Meanwhile, these young cats gonna look back and remember their favorite rappers wearing female leopard print pants and kissing other men, their favorite rappers wearing skirts, listening to former cops, etc. They're gonna remember wearing pants so tight, they look like they're painted on their skin. They're gonna remember wearing shirts (sometimes sleeveless :wrist:) so tight that if they take a good jog, afterwards you can see their heart beating rapidly right through their shirt.

While we look back like :obama:, the youngins will look back like :snoop:

We obviously won.
 

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We can look back on our era and be like :obama: with no regrets.

Meanwhile, these young cats gonna look back and remember their favorite rappers wearing female leopard print pants and kissing other men, their favorite rappers wearing skirts, listening to former cops, etc. They're gonna remember wearing pants so tight, they look like they're painted on their skin. They're gonna remember wearing shirts (sometimes sleeveless :wrist:) so tight that if they take a good jog, afterwards you can see their heart beating rapidly right through their shirt.

While we look back like :obama:, the youngins will look back like :snoop:

We obviously won.

Actually u gotta look back at ur heroes being exposed as a bunch of ballet, strippin ass fakket fake super thug ass nikkaz and be like "damn..I cant believe i thought they were real nikkaz..my whole life a lie"

While we get to look back at our sht where rappers are able to be themselves and see a plethora of personalities, styles and characters due to the game now being less rigid because of the powers of social media and technology

:umad:

:steviej:
 

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This is on point

There was no such thing as ironically bad rap
Poor, poor Kriss Kross. If they'd come around 20 years later they'd be Williamsburg sensations, with an army of hipsters buttoning their flannels up the back and rocking skinny jeans ass-forward (come to think of it, that might be more comfortable). In the '90s, rap fans had to defend themselves against a constant barrage of attack from people who thought that rap wasn't even music. We didn't have any time (or room in our cd-buying budget) for an ironic stance about the music we loved. Riff Raff? Riff Raff working with two of the most important artists of the day? That shyt would not fly in 1994.
 

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This is VERY on point, especially for the coli

We weren't so quick to call every album a classic
Ever heard of the cognitive bias known as the availability cascade? Basically, it goes: Repeat something simple and superficially insightful, and repeat it long enough, and at some point it'll be accepted as truth. You wanna know what's bad about having a stupid, bombastic opinion early into an album's release? Rushing to judgement urges other people to rush to judgement, which then creates wildly curved and inaccurate consensus, which can then drive the direction of would-be artists. That direction? To create contrived, first-impression classics. Also, it's just a conversation that makes us all stupider.
 

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I'm not biased at all. My only gripe is the lack of growth. When Thugmotivation 101 dropped it was hot in the streets and with the kids.....But to me it sounded like something that should have came out on No Limit in 1997. The drug dealer era was old to me yet Trap Music was the new/old thing in 2005. I thought that by 2005 we would have elevated past all that....But we didnt and we still haven't. But on the same note i accept the now because it is what it is.

agree & disagree.

yes. young jeezy is just a watered-down version of master p with ad-libs. put him on a stacked no limit roster and he'll be lucky to crack the 2nd unit coming off the bench. prolly 11th or 12th man. darko.

but what is a drug dealer era? as long as drugs are being peddled, people are gonna rap about it. i dont get that argument.

i do agree about trap music being the new/old thing in 2005. for alot of people that didnt get into the south until the radio forced it on them during that time period, it was the new thing. but for me, that whole style was already redundant to me. been there, dont that.

You may not be biased but most people are, it's natural. My dad grew up in the 70's, you can't tell that nikka that that era wasnt the GOAT in music. But it's understandable because that's what he grew up on. Just like people who grew up in the 80's will say that's the GOAT, people in the 90's say that's the GOAT, and people today will say this is the GOAT. Same thing for sports, fashion, entertainment etc

At the end of the day it's all opinion anyway

i agree that most people have a natural bias.

i just think that newer rap fans dont have the right to bring it up like that. this era is just trash. you cant pinpoint another era of hip-hop where the older fans shunned it as trash. only this era.

random example: my dad prefers 60s & 70s music. with that said, hes apart of the original era of rap fans. his favorite rap group is the furious five and he kinda drifted away from rap after the krush groove era......but he still respected the next 15 or so years of this rap chit and still knew alot of the hit singles. thats the difference. i mean, he doesnt come out and disrespect it like other oldheads do because hes a lil too far removed to do all that, but its like now, he doesnt even bother to take a peak at whats going on anymore. the last rappers he even looked twice at were killa cam and jimmy jones.:king:

nobody respects whats going on now but kids that dont know any better.....and thats only because they dont know any better.
 

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You may not be biased but most people are, it's natural. My dad grew up in the 70's, you can't tell that nikka that that era wasnt the GOAT in music. But it's understandable because that's what he grew up on. Just like people who grew up in the 80's will say that's the GOAT, people in the 90's say that's the GOAT, and people today will say this is the GOAT. Same thing for sports, fashion, entertainment etc

At the end of the day it's all opinion anyway

ur father is right tho...all across the board...
 
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