The king of Ghana, was the richest man on earth, in the late 10th century. Way before Mansa Musa...

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This is all according to Ibn Hawqal, a turkish-arab traveler who spent a lot of time in Europe, Asia and Africa. And i found this reference in many books and studies.
Ibn Hawqal - Wikipedia

1 -The geographer and traveler ibn Hawqal (fl. 960s,80s) has the following observation: "Ghana is the wealthiest king on the face of the earth because of his treasures and stocks of gold extracted in olden times for his predecessors and himself" (Pingree 1970:117; Levtzion and Hopkins 2000: 29, 49; also Blanchard 2001).

2 -"A little over a century later, Ibn Hawqal (c. 977), having visited Aoudaghost, mentions that the kings of that town have relations with the king of Ghana, which he describes as being the richest on earth because of his gold.28 El Bekri is the best-known source of information for the medieval Western Sudan providing descriptions of the kingdom, its court, its economy, its religions, and its army.29"
Soninke in Ancient West African History - Oxford Research Encyclopedia of African History

3 - "In the interior of west Africa the medieval search for salt acquired an importance which has been likened only to the European quest for gold. Ibn Hawqal explained the nature of this concern and its political implications in his discussion of relations between Awdaghust and Ghana:

[The] king of Awdaghust maintains relations with the ruler of Ghana. Ghana is the wealthiest king on the face of the earth because of his treasures and stocks of gold extracted in olden times for his predecessors and himself. He sends gifts to the ruler of Kugha (although Kugha does not approach the ruler of Ghana in opulence and well-being) and they send gifts to him. They stand in pressing need of the goodwill of the kings of Awdaghust because of the salt which comes to them from the lands of Islam. They cannot do without this salt, of which one load, in the interior and more remote parts of the land of the Sudan, may fetch between 200 and 300 dinar."
http://www.artsrn.ualberta.ca/amcdo...m the Ninth through the Twelfth Centuries.pdf
 

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Book: The different aspects of Islamic culture - Islam in the World today

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Book: Why Africa - A Continent in a Dilemma of Unanswered Questions

I mean, there are way more books and studies stating the sames. These are just some quick examples...


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The painful part is...BLACK PEOPLE ARE NOT THE MAIN ONES LEADING ARCHAEOLOGICAL ACTIVITIES IN AFRICA

Hasn't that been the case for centuries? What focus have we, on either side of the Atlantic, made to encourage more people to be in history and archaelogy? Neither are considered as wanted careers among Africans (diasporan and continental) as far as I know.
 

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Hasn't that been the case for centuries? What focus have we, on either side of the Atlantic, made to encourage more people to be in history and archaelogy? Neither are considered as wanted careers among Africans (diasporan and continental) as far as I know.

That's true, and really sad. If we could get kids(the next generation and our last hope) to swim on black history heavily, things will be way different in the future. But in order for that to happen, grown black folks need to take charge now. Other groups, will always manipulate our history, to better suit their agendas...They will always do that...
 

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I honestly didn't know about him Ibn Hawqal. And reading this makes me wonder just which of our kingdoms was the wealthiest one.

Was it the reino da Lunda? Or was there another one left and forgotten by history? Questions, oh so many questions. :wow:
 

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I honestly didn't know about him Ibn Hawqal. And reading this makes me wonder just which of our kingdoms was the wealthiest one.

Was it the reino da Lunda? Or was there another one left and forgotten by history? Questions, oh so many questions. :wow:

More archaeological studies need to be done. I think the Southern part of Angola was also part of the Great Zimbabwe. I am trying to find some info on the Lunda, Luba and Kuba Kingdom, but i don't see that much online. I know that Kongo had a 4 days calendar, but i don't know that much about their wealth.
 

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More archaeological studies need to be done. I think the Southern part of Angola was also part of the Great Zimbabwe. I am trying to find some info on the Lunda, Luba and Kuba Kingdom, but i don't see that much online. I know that Kongo had a 4 days calendar, but i don't know that much about their wealth.

Me too, but the most I see are info on military, cultural, and social customs and traditions. Not much info on wealth is laid out, although most likely that is because I'm unsure of the currencies they used and exactly how they used them. I suspect that would be the first thing to find out as an archeologist, and then do some math after that to lay out an estimate on the wealth.

I definitely share your views on the great need for us to invest in archeology. As I believe that if we don't find out our history, we will end up delivering this land to our enemies. And by "our history" I don't mean with the europeans, I mean before them.
 

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@EdJo do you know what this king's name was?

Nope, i was looking online and nothing came. I only know the name of 2 kings from the Ghana Empire.

Kayan Maga Cisse - He lived in the 4th century, and it is believed to be the first King of Ghana.

Ghana Bassi - He lived in the 11th century, basically 100 years after Ibn Hawqal's observation.
 

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Nope, i was looking online and nothing came. I only know the name of 2 kings from the Ghana Empire.

Kayan Maga Cisse - He lived in the 4th century, and it is believed to be the first King of Ghana.

Ghana Bassi - He lived in the 11th century, basically 100 years after Ibn Hawqal's observation.
Wait, there is also another king of Ghana that i forgot to mention, his name was Tunka Manin. He also lived in the 11th century.

Tunka Manin - Wikipedia

It could be one of these kings?
 

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It could be one of these kings?

Nah, i don't think so. Because Ibn Hawqal wrote that in the 10th century. It was definitely another king.

But, since Ghana was still super rich and praised in the 11th century, these kings(Tunka Manin and Ghana Bassi) could also be the richest men from their eras.
 
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