"The leader of the gang was President Obama!"- Trump on Russiagate

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WIA20XX said:
LOL at this narrative.

The Russian interference was primarily via social media, not by hacking into voting machines (unlike Elon in Pennsylvania for Trump).
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Narrative? Obama's Intelligence Community in 2016 said "We assess that Russian and criminal actors did not impact recent US election results by conducting malicious cyber activities against election infrastructure. "

If that's a narrative, it's Obama's IC's...

I don't know if the Intelligence Community assessed the impact of social media ads.
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Who was the president after Obama? I can't remember. I know it was a republican, but this comes out now. Interesting
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It was written in 2016. Obama chose not to clear the air at the time, though. For obvious political reasons...
 
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Starman said:
Narrative? Obama's Intelligence Community in 2016 said "We assess that Russian and criminal actors did not impact recent US election results by conducting malicious cyber activities against election infrastructure. "

If that's a narrative, it's Obama's IC's...

I don't know if the Intelligence Community assessed the impact of social media ads.

It was written in 2016. Obama chose not to clear the air at the time, though. For obvious political reasons...
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From 2017-2021, who was in charge? And even in that shyt u posted it said russians tried shyt in Illinois and probably other places. TulsinGabbard is a fukkin traitor and you are soreading misinformation
 
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Tony D'Amato said:
From 2017-2021, who was in charge? And even in that shyt u posted it said russians tried shyt in Illinois and probably other places. TulsinGabbard is a fukkin traitor and you are soreading misinformation
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Did not impact election results...

Obama Intelligence briefing. Take it up with them. :yeshrug:
 
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Starman said:
Narrative? Obama's Intelligence Community in 2016 said "We assess that Russian and criminal actors did not impact recent US election results by conducting malicious cyber activities against election infrastructure. "

If that's a narrative, it's Obama's IC's...

I don't know if the Intelligence Community assessed the impact of social media ads.

It was written in 2016. Obama chose not to clear the air at the time, though. For obvious political reasons...
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You're such a dishonest piece of shyt.

The December 2016 intelligence assessment did state that Russia did not alter vote totals or directly compromise election results through hacking voting infrastructure. But no one seriously claimed they did. That's not the point. And it never was.

The actual findings from Obama's Intelligence Community, reinforced by the January 2017 ODNI report and later the Mueller Report, were that:

1) Russia did interfere in the election by hacking and leaking emails from the DNC and top Democratic officials.

2) Russia did run a sweeping, well-documented disinformation campaign on social media through the Internet Research Agency that targeted specific voter groups, especially Black voters, to sow division and suppress turnout.

3) Russia did attempt to probe or scan election systems in multiple states (successfully accessing the Illinois voter registration database), though without altering vote counts.

So this idea that "Obama's IC said nothing happened" is just dishonest cherry-picking of one narrow statement about cyber infrastructure, and deliberately ignoring everything else they found.

It's all documented in the same report you people are cherry-picking from.



As for your claim that Obama "chose not to clear the air for political reasons," that’s rich. Obama publicly warned about Russian interference before the election, and McConnell and other GOP leaders threatened to call it partisan meddling if he went further. So he was put in a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't position, while Trump openly invited Russia to hack Clinton's emails on live TV.

In the end: the Russian interference was real, well-documented, and multi-pronged. Pretending it's a "narrative" just because it didn't involve literally hacking vote machines is pure bullshyt.
 
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Intelligence agencies and Senate investigators spent years reviewing the work, and concluded that during the 2016 election, the Russians conducted probing operations of election systems to see if they could change vote outcomes. While they extracted voter registration data in Illinois and Arizona, and probed in other states, there was no evidence that Moscow’s hackers attempted to actually change votes.

The Obama administration assessment never contended that Russian hackers manipulated votes.

Russia also conducted influence operations to change public opinion. That included using fake social media posts to sow division among Americans and leaking documents stolen from the Democratic National Committee to denigrate Hillary Clinton, the Democratic presidential nominee.

Multiple reviews, including a Republican-led Senate report, backed the findings of American spy agencies in late 2016 that Russia was trying to influence the election by damaging Ms. Clinton’s campaign and bolstering Mr. Trump.

Among the Republican senators on the Intelligence Committee that produced the various reports on Russian influence operations was Marco Rubio of Florida, now the secretary of state.

The new report by Ms. Gabbard’s staff conflates those two activities by the Russians and tries to suggest that the Obama administration forced the intelligence community to alter its conclusions.
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The report released on Friday highlighted that there was “no indication of a Russian threat to directly manipulate the actual vote count,” then contrasted that with the spy agencies’ ultimate conclusion in December 2016 that President Vladimir V. Putin “aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances.”

The report focused on a decision intelligence officials made at the time against producing an article for the president’s daily intelligence briefing that would have said that the Russians “did not impact recent U.S. election results by conducting malicious cyber activities against election infrastructure.”

But Senator Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Intelligence Committee, said the new report compared two different things: Russian attempts to hack into voting systems and Russian influence operations meant to sway public opinion.
“This is one more example of the director of national intelligence trying to cook the books,” Mr. Warner said. “We’re talking about apples and oranges. The Russians were not successful at manipulating our election infrastructure, nor did we say they were.”
The influence operations that the intelligence community reported, and the Senate Intelligence Committee studied extensively, were a different effort, he said.

Mr. Warner noted that as recently as March, the intelligence community reported that Russia had continued its malign influence efforts to sow dissent in the West. The report found that “Moscow probably believes information operations efforts to influence U.S. elections are advantageous,” and that undermining the integrity of American elections was a key goal.

“They acknowledged that Russia’s effort to meddle goes on. That was an assessment under her watch,” he said, referring to Ms. Gabbard.
Mr. Warner said his committee examined the effort to produce the intelligence assessment in December 2016 and found no attempt by Mr. Obama or senior officials to manipulate the findings.
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Is anyone surprised that Tulsi Gabbard has gone all in with the authoritarians by cooking up false reports?
 
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