The majority whether they come from Jamaica, Trinidad, Barbados or Grenada seek to degrade the American Negro

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

Hairlines hotter than fish grease
It’s literally in text on how muthafukkas get down
But it’s
Unh uh yall called us ugly in the 80s
That’s why we mad
shyt is laughable
Them goofies don’t want to unite
They would rather keep playing victim and grinding the axe
Then stand on business
Call the fukk shyt out some of they people be on
And fight with us against oppression and the real enemy
Keep playing dense and circle jerking
I see who dapping that felonious shyt
But you My Brotha, My Brotha, Queen Mother Earth Rising

 

[Iverson_64]

Unlike many on here, I'm Black American and grew up with non-AA Black people all my life in NYC on top of AA's.

Were there moments of tension of cultural issues? Certainly.

Is it anywhere as bad as the Coli and Tariq Nasheed make it out to be? No.

Basically, in a lot of Black neighborhoods throughout NYC, we're on similar pages more often than not. We understand anti-Black racism, police brutality, redlining, racial profiling, civil rights, etc. Usually, the tension that did occur would involve ignorant kids on either side who were talking shyt and roasting people or old school minded Boomers/older Gen Xers who were ethnocentric or stuck in their own ways.

I've had Black people without an AA background in my circle throughout my whole life. And I've had some give me employment and network opportunities in the job world. And it's not as unheard of as you think. Many 2nd generation Caribbean/Afro-Latino/African people are pro-Black and big on empowering Black communities. Obviously, the 1st gen ones are more likely to be clannish or stuck to their own culture but that's just a typical cultural rift that can even be found amongst AA's ourselves with middle class AA's and lower class AA's beefing or AA Northeasters and AA Southerners beefing sometimes. It's not always strictly a diaspora issue.

I'm not saying AA Black people shouldn't recognize our unique identity and that our history in the U.S. is generally different. But some of you guys act like every other non-AA Black person acts like an Uncle Ruckus type figure who's kissing up to Whites while hating AA's. In fact, many 5 Percenter Black men in NYC I've met irl who were on the "Black man is God" stuff were West Indian and Afro-Latino. No joke. I even knew a Black Panamanian dude who was on that wave.

But this is the Coli though where all types of Black people despise each other across the board except for middle class AADOS men with 6 certs. After all, ya'll also claim that hood/urban brothers despise each other and that Black women despise Black men. Yet, as a AA Black man who grew up in majority Black areas my whole life in NYC, I didn't experience a quarter of the "gender wars", "diaspora wars", or "nerd vs thug" wars that ya'll claim define the Black community. It's all subjective though because people have different experiences. My wife is Haitian too so that's obviously going to skew my perception as well. To each their own.

 

[Neuromancer]

Unlike many on here, I'm Black American and grew up with non-AA Black people all my life in NYC on top of AA's.

Were there moments of tension of cultural issues? Certainly.

Is it anywhere as bad as the Coli and Tariq Nasheed make it out to be? No.

Basically, in a lot of Black neighborhoods throughout NYC, we're on similar pages more often than not. We understand anti-Black racism, police brutality, redlining, racial profiling, civil rights, etc. Usually, the tension that did occur would involve ignorant kids on either side who were talking shyt and roasting people or old school minded Boomers/older Gen Xers who were ethnocentric or stuck in their own ways.

I've had Black people without an AA background in my circle throughout my whole life. And I've had some give me employment and network opportunities in the job world. And it's not as unheard of as you think. Many 2nd generation Caribbean/Afro-Latino/African people are pro-Black and big on empowering Black communities. Obviously, the 1st gen ones are more likely to be clannish or stuck to their own culture but that's just a typical cultural rift that can even be found amongst AA's ourselves with middle class AA's and lower class AA's beefing or AA Northeasters and AA Southerners beefing sometimes. It's not always strictly a diaspora issue.

I'm not saying AA Black people shouldn't recognize our unique identity and that our history in the U.S. is generally different. But some of you guys act like every other non-AA Black person acts like an Uncle Ruckus type figure who's kissing up to Whites while hating AA's. In fact, many 5 Percenter Black men in NYC I've met irl who were on the "Black man is God" stuff were West Indian and Afro-Latino. No joke. I even knew a Black Panamanian dude who was on that wave.

But this is the Coli though where all types of Black people despise each other across the board except for middle class AADOS men with 6 certs. After all, ya'll also claim that hood/urban brothers despise each other and that Black women despise Black men. Yet, as a AA Black man who grew up in majority Black areas my whole life in NYC, I didn't experience a quarter of the "gender wars", "diaspora wars", or "nerd vs thug" wars that ya'll claim define the Black community. It's all subjective though because people have different experiences. My wife is Haitian too so that's obviously going to skew my perception as well. To each their own.

This has been my experience too.

Although a lot a people didn't like Haitians mainly Jamaicans.

 

[King Harlem]

You sound dumb as fukk.

The author of the article was a Caribbean man

A real RIDER

That's like a White man posting some Clarence Thomas article saying 'see what I'm saying must be true because this Black man is saying it'

 

[Phitz]

Unlike many on here, I'm Black American and grew up with non-AA Black people all my life in NYC on top of AA's.

Were there moments of tension of cultural issues? Certainly.

Is it anywhere as bad as the Coli and Tariq Nasheed make it out to be? No.

Basically, in a lot of Black neighborhoods throughout NYC, we're on similar pages more often than not. We understand anti-Black racism, police brutality, redlining, racial profiling, civil rights, etc. Usually, the tension that did occur would involve ignorant kids on either side who were talking shyt and roasting people or old school minded Boomers/older Gen Xers who were ethnocentric or stuck in their own ways.

I've had Black people without an AA background in my circle throughout my whole life. And I've had some give me employment and network opportunities in the job world. And it's not as unheard of as you think. Many 2nd generation Caribbean/Afro-Latino/African people are pro-Black and big on empowering Black communities. Obviously, the 1st gen ones are more likely to be clannish or stuck to their own culture but that's just a typical cultural rift that can even be found amongst AA's ourselves with middle class AA's and lower class AA's beefing or AA Northeasters and AA Southerners beefing sometimes. It's not always strictly a diaspora issue.

I'm not saying AA Black people shouldn't recognize our unique identity and that our history in the U.S. is generally different. But some of you guys act like every other non-AA Black person acts like an Uncle Ruckus type figure who's kissing up to Whites while hating AA's. In fact, many 5 Percenter Black men in NYC I've met irl who were on the "Black man is God" stuff were West Indian and Afro-Latino. No joke. I even knew a Black Panamanian dude who was on that wave.

But this is the Coli though where all types of Black people despise each other across the board except for middle class AADOS men with 6 certs. After all, ya'll also claim that hood/urban brothers despise each other and that Black women despise Black men. Yet, as a AA Black man who grew up in majority Black areas my whole life in NYC, I didn't experience a quarter of the "gender wars", "diaspora wars", or "nerd vs thug" wars that ya'll claim define the Black community. It's all subjective though because people have different experiences. My wife is Haitian too so that's obviously going to skew my perception as well. To each their own.

Some people are hell bent on building these big giant dumb strawmen. They want to hate others so bad until they make up reasons, blow them up larger than life and put their whole purpose on it.

Funny they sould scarily similar ot KKK. Blame 10% of the population for 100% of the problems. Forcing this funny math into data centres as if it won't look foolish to anybody with some common thinking skills.

 

[desjardins]

The solution to this is real simple
keep the same energy that people keep with you
that applies to literally everyone: whites, asians, latinos, non-ADOS, ADOS people from another part of the country, ADOS people from a different social class, etc
Are all Nigerians elitist and think they're better than ADOS ppl? No, but I have encountered a ton who are. So I just distance myself from them and rock with the ones who on real time

 

[Iverson_64]

Some people are hell bent on building these big giant dumb strawmen. They want to hate others so bad until they make up reasons, blow them up larger than life and put their whole purpose on it.

Funny they sould scarily similar ot KKK. Blame 10% of the population for 100% of the problems. Forcing this funny math into data centres as if it won't look foolish to anybody with some common thinking skills.

Yeah...man.

And, in the social media age, people really overlook how much our algorithms are geared towards ragebait.

All it takes is one random Ghanaian nobody's ever heard of going viral for saying something stupid on the Internet and suddenly people will act like he's Ghana's ambassador.

I'm not saying there aren't cultural differences and tension sometimes. But, relatively speaking, I feel far less tension as an AA man around Caribbean/African/Afro-Latino people in the U.S. than non-Blacks. And I wish more Coli brehs could see how normalized it is for Black people of different ethnicities to hang out, get along, live with each other, go to the same schools, eat each other's cuisines, date/marry, hire each other, etc. in many ethnically diverse Black areas like here in Queens.

Hell, I sometimes feel more at ease around non-AA Black New Yorkers than I do around AA Southerners from small towns and suburbs(meaning Atlanta, Houston, and Memphis are exempt). I've had some AA Southerners in my own family label me a certain way because they found some mannerisms of New Yorkers like myself to be off-putting.

Out of all the tensions to focus on, focusing on non-AA Black people should take the least priority imho because we have less tension with them than non-Blacks and they're one of the smallest immigrant groups in the U.S. That's just my own take though.

There's misinformation about Black immigrants being pro-MAGA too which is cap and not backed by any data.

More than 90% of Black men in Brooklyn voted for Kamala in 2024 and that's a heavily non-AA Black area.

Ironically, the only Black(ish?) group who voted for Trump in large numbers were Dominicans and many don't even associate with the Black community like that and vibe with other Hispanics more. I think Dominicans voted something like 45% for Trump on a national level. That's way higher than any other group in the diaspora whether we're talking AA's, Caribbean, African, or even other Black Latinos from Panama and Honduras.

 

[Robbie3000]

Look at this disgusting tether (and I use that word judiciously).

My arguments are quite cogent. A+B=C type shyt.

You and @LeaveMyHairLineAlone can't out do a train of thought, especially not with your tribalist, fakkt-like logic. You think like bytches, playing with language, in group vs group shyt. It's gross. No wonder them crackers divided yall up so easy.

See what I mean. She posts like she is on a coke bender.

 

[RealCrownHeights]

The article was written almost 100 years ago before Tariq was even alive


What does this have to do with Tariq?

What other reason would someone have to post an article like that. The only people that post shyt like that are followers of Tariq, dong play dumb.

Should I post every article about FBA calling African's African booty scratchers and Caribbean coconuts from 1960 till now?

I'm dead ass. We inherited an old house, everything is on the edge of falling apart. We've had ceilings collapse (fixed by Italians), bought a new boiler (WI plumber, our guy), etc. shyt stay popping in here.

I emphasize with you and that is very unfortunate, but yes there are FBA Tradesmen in the city.