The Netherlands to Immigrants: Learn Dutch or Leave

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:salute: To the Netherlands. If you want to speak your home language, stay at home. If you immigrate to another country then you learn their language and culture. I immigrated to the US when I was 6 years old. Started learning the language when I was 5. Same with my parents. Same with my grandparents. Its my biggest pet peeve with new immigrants. They make no efforts to assimilate and learn the language of the locals.

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:troll: jus messin with ya :lolbron: you right, but did you look it up after i posted? common mistake in the language
 

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What constitutes learning Dutch? Is it fluency or competency?

This seem like a very vague statement and law to enforce. What about accents? What about variation of dutch that exists through the Netherlands? What about the rest of the EU? I know Spanish, Italians, and Greeks have been migrating to northern Europe in big numbers. What if they start shoving huge amount of their own allies out of the country. This wouldn't go well with the EU and their own foreign relations.

The timing of this ban seems like a huge cop out for the failures of government and businesses that have driven The Netherlands and much of Europe down in the employment toilet.

To everyone else: You do realize that the region right below the US is around 700 million people that speak something besides English. Technology and communication has blurred borders and made immigration a lot easier. You can't keep Spanish south of the border, that's not how the world works anymore. I don't support certain Latinos refusing to speak English but I understand the dynamic of why bilingual signs exist. Even in The Netherlands, there are businesses and government offices that have signs in English, German, and other popular Euro languages. Heck 70% of the population is semi-fluent to fluent in German. I can't say the same for the US population.
 

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i don't support laws of this nature because they're often the first step towards severe xenophobic laws.

but i also don't understand why immigrants wouldn't at least try to learn the language of the country they live. fluency and accent-free second languages should not be expected, but communicative skills should be.
the xenophobic laws come BECAUSE of the immigrants who don't at least try to learn the language of the country they live
 

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the xenophobic laws come BECAUSE of the immigrants who don't at least try to learn the language of the country they live
:stopitslime: xenophobic laws are just as much, if not more (read: more) because of ultra nationalist sentiment within a given country

there are ways immigrant groups can help stem the tide yes, but they are not 100% responsible for xenophobia. that's fukking ridiculous
 
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