Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - The Slotification of Liverpool is nearly complete

[Kunty McPhuck]

I'm talking about European cups like the other European giants.

Thats nonsense breh. Because goin by that logic up till 1996.

Forest > Barca, United

Forest = Inter & Juve

While Arsenal have never been true Giants of European Football, but since the 70's they have made atleast one European Final in the decade. And before Wenger took over Arsenal were Londons biggest and most successful club and the 3rd biggest.behind United & Liverpool

 

[Liu Kang]

Deschamps just announced the 25 french players for the matches against Georgia and Belarus :

Keepers : Mickaël Landreau (Bastia), Hugo Lloris (Tottenham/ANG), Steve Mandanda (Marseille).
Defenders : Eric Abidal (Monaco), Gaël Clichy (Manchester City/ANG), Mathieu Debuchy (Newcastle/ANG), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ANG), Laurent Koscielny (Arsenal/ANG), Eliaquim Mangala (FC Porto/POR), Adil Rami (Valence/ESP), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal/ANG).
Midfielders : Etienne Capoue (Tottenham/ANG), Clément Grenier (Lyon), Josuha Guilavogui (Saint-Etienne), Geoffrey Kondogbia (FC Séville/ESP), Blaise Matuidi (PSG), Paul Pogba (Juventus/ITA), Moussa Sissoko (Newcastle/ANG).
Forwards : Karim Benzema (Real Madrid/ESP), André-Pierre Gignac (Marseille), Olivier Giroud (Arsenal/ANG), Samir Nasri (Manchester City/ANG), Dimitri Payet (Marseille), Franck Ribéry (Bayern Munich/ALL), Mathieu Valbuena (Marseille).

I know we play in a 4/2/3/1 but our midfield is too strong and not technical enough. Too much 6s

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Deschamps just announced the 25 french players for the matches against Georgia and Belarus :

Keepers : Mickaël Landreau (Bastia), Hugo Lloris (Tottenham/ANG), Steve Mandanda (Marseille).
Defenders : Eric Abidal (Monaco), Gaël Clichy (Manchester City/ANG), Mathieu Debuchy (Newcastle/ANG), Patrice Evra (Manchester United/ANG), Laurent Koscielny (Arsenal/ANG), Eliaquim Mangala (FC Porto/POR), Adil Rami (Valence/ESP), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal/ANG).
Midfielders : Etienne Capoue (Tottenham/ANG), Clément Grenier (Lyon), Josuha Guilavogui (Saint-Etienne), Geoffrey Kondogbia (FC Séville/ESP), Blaise Matuidi (PSG), Paul Pogba (Juventus/ITA), Moussa Sissoko (Newcastle/ANG).
Forwards : Karim Benzema (Real Madrid/ESP), André-Pierre Gignac (Marseille), Olivier Giroud (Arsenal/ANG), Samir Nasri (Manchester City/ANG), Dimitri Payet (Marseille), Franck Ribéry (Bayern Munich/ALL), Mathieu Valbuena (Marseille).

I know we play in a 4/2/3/1 but our midfield is too strong and not technical enough. Too much 6s

Pogba & Kondogbia is pivot . Grenier as the most advanced midfielder/am Valbuena on the rw, Scarface lw and Benzema up top.

The fb's are

 

[mastermind]

Fabio Quagliarella

 

[Jax]

Journalist (to Balotelli): “You are dominant, like Ibrahimovic…”
Mario: “We are different”
Journalist: “It’s a good compliment”
Mario:”Yes yes, for him”

this nikka Balotelli

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Fabio Quagliarella

Atleast you'll have multiple contenders for goal of the season

 

[Liu Kang]

Pogba & Kondogbia is pivot . Grenier as the most advanced midfielder/am Valbuena on the rw, Scarface lw and Benzema up top.

The fb's are

Yeah Pogba is definitely a starter but Matuidi is in his prime right now, that's why I don't like.
If you watched the Belgium/France match few weeks ago, we had a Guilavogui / Kondogbia pivot and they weren't helping. They just stayed in front of the defense and worse they also let belgian midfield in between because it was too technical for us to match . I don't think we need that much 6s. We had like 5 people for the same position... Sissoko , Guilavogui and let a Cabaye and a Cabella in. At least if Grenier or Valbuena is injured, we have back up.

I'm going for that :

Lloris
Sagna - Kos - Abidal - Evra
Pogba - Matuidi
Payet(Nasri) - Valbuena(Grenier) - Ribéry
Gignac(Benz)
​

 

[mastermind]

Atleast you'll have multiple contenders for goal of the season

an Iberian Matthew Taylor

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Yeah Pogba is definitely a starter but Matuidi is in his prime right now, that's why I don't like.
If you watched the Belgium/France match few weeks ago, we had a Guilavogui / Kondogbia pivot and they weren't helping. They just stayed in front of the defense and worse they also let belgian midfield in between because it was too technical for us to match . I don't think we need that much 6s. We had like 5 people for the same position... Sissoko , Guilavogui and let a Cabaye and a Cabella in. At least if Grenier or Valbuena is injured, we have back up.

I'm going for that :

Lloris
Sagna - Kos - Abidal - Evra
Pogba - Matuidi
Payet(Nasri) - Valbuena(Grenier) - Ribéry
Gignac(Benz)
​

Why isnt he there or is he injured?

Sissoko is more of a attackin b2b player then a defender

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

an Neapolitan Matthew Taylor

fixed

 

[Liu Kang]

Why isnt he there or is he injured?

Sissoko is more of a attackin b2b player then a defender

Don't know but I know he caused havoc in PSG defense when they met two weeks ago.
And Sissoko does what Matuidi or Pogba or Capoue can do already. We need more vista, more technical ability in our midfield.

 

[gho3st]

wenger has bid 25m for Di maria....walcott in the middle??



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there's no way levy can sell bale, bring all these players...sell adebayor and bring in hernandez...there's no way...

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Don't know but I know he caused havoc in PSG defense when they met two weeks ago.
And Sissoko does what Matuidi or Pogba or Capoue can do already. We need more vista, more technical ability in our midfield.

To me they add all something different, Sissoko is like Ghetto Prince a more attacker b2b, Pogba is a playmaker, Matuidi is your classical b2b player & Capoue is a dm

 

[Liu Kang]

To me they add all something different, Sissoko is like Ghetto Prince a more attacker b2b, Pogba is a playmaker, Matuidi is your classical b2b player & Capoue is a dm

You're likely right but do you think he brings enough to be in the team ?
I think the 4 are just variations of the same position and a Cabella or a Cabaye fits in a different one and therefore brings another weapon to the team while a Sissoko will just mod an existing one. But that's Deschamps, since Marseille, he relies on a strong midfield and a double pivot so I won't say that what he does isn't logical regarding his past.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

You're likely right but do you think he brings enough to be in the team ?
I think the 4 are just variations of the same position and a Cabella or a Cabaye fits in a different one and therefore brings another weapon to the team while a Sissoko will just mod an existing one. But that's Deschamps, since Marseille, he relies on a strong midfield and a double pivot so I won't say that what he does isn't logical regarding his past.

Sissoko is good as an impact sub when you chasing games, not good enough to be in the startin XI tho compared to everyone else in the squad. The issue that Deschamps has at the moment is that all the talented players that France can choose from, they all in the inexperience age range/international level amd hes still tryin to qualify for a world cup. Belgium got away with forming their team with a bunch of young players because a) In football terms theyre not on France level, b) theyve struggled for a long time, so they had to change it up and they were blessed with a crop all in the same age range all within 5-6 years of each other and still have another 4-6 years to play with each other.