The OFFICIAL - Mac Dre **Fan Club Thread**

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cats talk about swag.... Mac Dre could make the GOOFIEST shyt work for him... effortlessly!

also props to mac dreezy for puttin shrooms in the limelight and givin that shyt the exposure it rightfully deserves




also this track SLAPS

 
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Its a shame that Pac and Dre never did any songs together in studio (im not counting Gotta Survive) cuz one of them was always locked up. I'd smack a preschooler right now to hear some game from both of them on the same track.

I'd be right there with you smacking them little kids :smugfavre:

Biiiitch gonna ask me
to come with her to grocery shop :what:

I told her straight up like this, no siree bob :shaq2:

THATS NOT MY JOB!!! :troll:


I've actually heard this line quoted verbatim on an MTV reality show

in todays world of crazy dressing, dread shaking molly popping nikkas, Mac Dre would be a GOD.

think about that for a second: these nikkas just doing NOW everything Mac Dre was doing.... TEN YEARS AGO.

Exactly, everyone who's coming out now captures some watered down appeal of what Mac Dre was. Mac Dre had superstar potential, even today his catalog could be picked up by a major and remastered and distributed with a new marketing plan . . this has to happen at some point because his legacy can only grow. I hope to hear some unreleased music as well but they should focus on getting distribution, remaster those albums in them Dr. Dre studios down in LA - give each song that sound as if it was mastered like a Dr. Dre album and then use the proceeds for some Bay Area community centers.
 

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Nation of Thizzlam
Mac Dre's Thizz label undergoes a rebirth. By Garrett Caples

THE REAL LEGACY of Mac Dre is not his criminal record but rather the music he made and the label he started, first called Romp Records, after his release from prison in 1996. In a characteristically generous move, Dre first released Rompalation (1996), featuring the new generation of Crestside rappers who'd begun to establish themselves in his absence. In 2001 Dre relocated to Sacramento and renamed his company Thizz Entertainment, downplaying the association with the Romper Room Gang. Originally slang for an ecstasy high, thizzin' grew to be an extremely elastic concept in Dre's hands, encompassing a wide range of hedonistic associations.

While Thizz long boasted an impressive roster of largely Crestside-bred talent, the death of its charismatic leader and best seller obviously threatened the company's existence. But Thizz wouldn't die. Dre's business partners, Miami Tha Most and Kilo Curt, brought in Crestside native Mac Mall as co-owner, flagship artist, and public face of the organization. Though Mall and Dre had fallen out in the mid-'90s, they'd recently reunited to record Da U.S. Open (Thizz, 2005), the last project Dre completed, down to its tennis-themed cover art.

"We started doing a lot of shows on the road and bonded our friendship first," Mall recalls. "Then that record was the easiest I ever made in my life. It was so organic. Me and Dre was getting ready to take over the world, doing projects together and then solos, along with the rest of Thizz. So we already had this in mind.

"When the dude passed, I made a vow: I'm not gonna let this story end. I gotta step up and keep Crestside music alive."

Thizz has done more than stay alive. The period since Dre passed has been one of the hottest times for Bay Area rap in years, and no label has brought more heat than Thizz. In addition to maintaining Dre's own vast catalog, Thizz has dropped one underground banger after another this year, releasing new albums from its established core of Crestside artists like PSD (The Guru), Little Bruce (Base Rocks and Pimp Socks), and J-Diggs (California Livin', Part 2), as well as more recent affiliates like former Steady Mobbin' member BavGate (The InstaGator) and North Oakland's Mistah F.A.B. (Son of a Pimp), whose Droop E-produced single, "Super Sic Wid It," featuring Turf Talk and E-40, cracked the top five on KMEL-FM in September, making it the label's biggest radio success. (Dre's own Sean T-produced "Fellin' Myself," from his 2004 album, Ronald Dregan, continues to play in heavy rotation.) Mob Figaz member Rydah J. Klyde, a friend of Dre's from his Sacramento days, already had two big albums on Thizz this year – The Best of the Mob Figaz and a duo album, as Money Gang, with Johnny Cash of Da Hoodfellas, called Bang Fo' Bread – when he dropped two more: one solo, What's Really Thizzin?, and one duo, with Freako, El Pueblo Children. This doesn't even exhaust the list, which also includes four Thizz Nation compilations. Taken as a whole, it's an unprecedented single-year output for a Bay Area independent hip-hop label.
Dreganomics

The sheer volume of Thizz releases over the past year has been made possible by an increased level of collaboration within Bay Area hip-hop's notoriously cutthroat business environment. Dre's goodwill extended far beyond Crestside, and the tragic circumstances of his death provided a sudden common ground on which a divided scene could unite.

"Thizz Nation, that's everybody all put together, because that's what Dre always wanted," PSD says. "The Bay Area didn't know how to come together. But with Thizz, it's starting to happen. A lot of neighborhoods that had problems squashed those problems in the name of Mac Dre and Thizz.

"We're trying to carry on what Dre had going on, to put the shine back on the Bay," he continues. "This is a fire he started. It's up to us to keep it lit. It'd not only be disrespectful not to – we'd be idiots."

Mistah F.A.B. says they wanted to release their own music as artists but they also wanted to keep Mac Dre's legacy alive. "He started a lot of things that's taking place now. We want to put the Bay Area back out front."
Putting out

This new spirit of cooperation involves more than just pooling creative resources, though that helps. In F.A.B.'s case, he recorded his entire album, including guest shots and producers, for free, as favors in exchange for his contributions to Thizz projects. More radical, however, has been Thizz's adaptation of the cobranding principle to local hip-hop on an unprecedented scale, teaming with rappers like F.A.B. and BavGate, who often produce and release their own albums. "We do albums and we bring them to Kilo, who is the CEO," F.A.B. explains. "Each artist has their own different ways of completing his album. But if it's an album Thizz feels is worth putting out, putting their stamp on, they're gonna put it out."

In exchange for a cut of the profits, Thizz lends logistical support and promotional dollars, as well as the "Mac Dre Presents" logo. Ultimately such independent dollars only go so far. As is increasingly the case even with major labels, it's ultimately the artist's responsibility to break the record. But Thizz lends the power, infrastructure, and name recognition of a corporation to artists who otherwise might not be able to push a record. It also exposes them to potential new fans through association with other Thizz artists.

"There comes a point of saturation," F.A.B. confesses. "You don't want people to burn out on the whole movement before it even gets a chance to expand." What is striking, however, is the sheer quality of the Thizz releases thus far. Obviously Dre's death has lent an incredible urgency to this music. The effect might best be gauged by comparing PSD's current The Guru and his 2003 U Ain't Heard of Me???, both coreleased by Thizz and his own Gateway Entertainment. While the earlier disc is an impressive, if overpacked, collection of a top-notch rapper, The Guru is a true masterpiece of an album, bluesy and soulful, tinged throughout with PSD's Mississippi roots.

With the addition of Keak Da Sneak, who confirmed his much-awaited upcoming album will be a Thizz co-release with his own label AllNDaDoe, Thizz continues to gain momentum. The one holdout thus far is Dre's fellow Cutthroat Committee member Dubee. While he willingly helped PSD finish the group's second album, Money Iz Motive, among Dre's final projects, Dubee doesn't feel ready to drop another album yet. "I put my game on pause," he says, "out of respect for the cuddie." While he may not agree, PSD understands his friend's position. No one wants to exploit Dre even as they want to further his work.

"We could have used more songs with Dre," PSD says. "But we were like, no, save it for his kids. We have to eventually let go. We can't just keep giving you Dre songs like Dre alive."

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Before his death eight years ago, Bay Area hip-hop legend Mac Dre frequently used the term "thizz" to describe the feeling of being high on ecstasy. Dre, born Andre Louis Hicks, would drop the word in his breezy, synth-filled songs, helping foment the hyphy movement of the early 2000s, and even renamed his Vallejo-based record label Thizz Entertainment.
Bay Area rap legend Mac Dre was murdered in Kansas City in 2004. His mother now runs the label he started.
Bay Area rap legend Mac Dre was murdered in Kansas City in 2004. His mother now runs the label he started.
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Last month, the Drug Enforcement Administration alleged an even closer — and very recent — link between Thizz Entertainment and the ecstasy trade: It busted a trafficking ring it says involved individuals directly tied to Dre's label, which is now in the hands of the late rapper's mother, Wanda Salvatto. But Salvatto, and many in the East Bay hip-hop community, say the DEA is flat-out wrong in linking ecstasy traffickers with Thizz Entertainment, and believe the agency is simply trying to sensationalize its bust.

Of the 25 individuals arrested by the DEA last month, only four are artists with links to Thizz Entertainment. One of those, Michael "Miami the Most" Lott, is alleged by the DEA to be a "co-C.E.O." of the company — a fact Salvatto, the label's owner, denies. Yet in documents about the bust, the DEA repeatedly emphasizes the connection between the traffickers and the label. One press release included the headline, "Arrests in Major Nationwide Drug Trafficking Investigation — Includes Those Associated with 'Thizz Entertainment.'" The DEA's complaint against Lott mentions that a "confidential source ("CS-1") provided historical background about the origin of Thizz Entertainment ... and many of the target subjects in this investigation." It goes on to say that, "Many of the target subjects in this investigation ... have released rap albums through Thizz Entertainment."

Critics say these statements exaggerate the connection between Thizz Entertainment and the traffickers, and unfairly give the impression that a large part of the Bay Area hip-hop community is affiliated with the drug trade. One longtime local industry figure known as Stretch, who manages such artists as Kreayshawn and Mistah F.A.B., explains the issue this way: "If four out of 25 people are associated with the label, how does that make the label involved? I bet you at least four of those people are also related to a church or a basketball team. My problem is, if an artist gets arrested that's associated with Universal Records, they don't say it's a Universal drug ring unless there's actually a plot to make money off of it."

That the busted drug ring made money off of its activities isn't in doubt. The DEA's investigation resulted in the seizure of 45,000 ecstasy pills, four pounds of crack cocaine, half a pound of heroin, and $200,000 in cash. In attempting to link the drug ring to Thizz Entertainment, though, the investigation relied on information procured from those it arrested: According to the criminal complaint filed by the DEA, Lott boasted that he "operated Thizz Entertainment," while other details came from a confidential paid informant.

Salvatto maintains that the links claimed by the DEA are wrong. She says that since her son was murdered in Kansas City in 2004, ownership of Thizz Entertainment has been in her hands only, and that the label exists simply to manage Mac Dre's revered back catalog of music. No one from the DEA, she says, ever contacted her to verify the information about the ownership and day-to-day running of the business. "Maybe they got the information [about Thizz Entertainment] from the arrested people," she says. "I'm still guessing."

Confusion on the DEA's part as to who is involved with Thizz Entertainment may have arisen due to the presence of a separate company named Thizz Nation. Both companies are based in the East Bay, and both have worked with artists who are continuing Dre's legacy. But Thizz Nation is a distribution company, while Thizz Entertainment is a record label.

According to Stretch, who counts himself as a partner in Thizz Nation, the distribution company was formed in 2003. The two entities are run separately, but the sheer number of artists both companies have worked with at various times may have obfuscated this issue: Stretch estimates that Thizz Nation has handled more than 160 albums by 50 or more artists, plus many other guest features. Factor in the relatively small size of Vallejo, where many of the arrested reside, and you have a situation where, as he puts it, "every time someone's arrested in the Bay Area, you could tie it to us — but that's just the volume of people involved."

Asked about this issue via e-mail, DEA spokesperson Casey Rettig would not confirm whether the agency recognizes a difference between Thizz Entertainment and Thizz Nation. Rettig said it was standard procedure to not comment on ongoing investigations, and instead sent SF Weekly the original criminal complaint documents.

Salvatto is still unsure why her son's reputation has been called into doubt by association. She suspects that it could be a form of discrimination. Jay King, a consultant for Thizz Entertainment, agrees, saying, "You can't just say all rappers are involved in drugs, just like we don't say all cops are corrupt."

But though she's working to clear her son's name, Salvatto isn't concerned that the DEA bust will tarnish his legacy. She plans to carry on running Thizz Entertainment as a business focused on handling Mac Dre's music. Currently, Salvatto is reviewing proposals from artists who have requested permission to work with some of Mac Dre's unreleased recordings. "Andre has been dead for eight years," she says. "So what happened three years ago when they were investigating has no bearing on Andre."
 
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