Yeah I can understand that. Saw on reddit, I know don't trust it, but All is saying that they tried to get him to play while he was injured.I don’t know. They might be desperate enough. They might have been told they’d be a package deal?
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SMFH Corum denied a heisman invite
If he could come back, and not alienate Donovan Edwards, i'd love it.
If he could come back, and not alienate Donovan Edwards, i'd love it.
That was crazy that he was denied a invite after a great season and great coverage from the national media.
Him and Edwards seem very close and Edwards is a team guy. I think he could could back and still be a good 1-2 punch along with good NIL money for both.
Do you know how how Corum stock is in the draft if he came out?
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Whispers about the Erik All saga...
Here it is from a low level AD guy at U of M. This is his/their point of view:
Harbaugh/U of M medical wanted All to “work through” and rehab his injury and All did that for a while. Then he decided to get another opinion. He came back to U of M medical with that opinion and insisted he have surgery. U of M staff disagreed but All insisted so they offered some other people for All to reach out to for other opinions. Including some surgeons. All then opted to go to this place in Florida to have a surgery done against Harbaugh/U of M medical/U of M staffs wishes. All assumed because him and Harbaugh are close that Harbaugh would go to bat for him and get him cleared after the surgery. U of M medical told him if he went out of network there was a strong likelihood they wouldn’t clear him to play for U of M after. Again, he assumed his great relationship with Harbaugh would come into play and Harbaugh would get him cleared. Harbaugh didn’t want to address until after the season. Now that the regular season is over they had a discussion and Harbaugh essentially told him he doesn’t have control over U of M clearing him medically.
Essentially he shouldn’t have gone out of network to the place he did to get his surgery. They don’t feel the place he went was up to par basically. U of M medical now won’t clear him and All feels like Harbaugh turned his back on him because Harbaugh will not help him get cleared. U of M medical has made it clear he will not be allowed to play for the U of M and there is essentially nothing Harbaugh can do. All thought him being close to Harbaugh would change that somehow and he would get special treatment after explicitly not listening to anyone on the U of M staff. Its not even that he couldn’t get surgery, it’s that he went to a non-reputable place to have it done and they don’t feel comfortable with what went down so they won’t clear him for fear of him getting hurt worse.
There you go. I would guess Seth or Brian can verify this because it came directly from a guy in the AD.
Here it is from a low level AD guy at U of M. This is his/their point of view:
Harbaugh/U of M medical wanted All to “work through” and rehab his injury and All did that for a while. Then he decided to get another opinion. He came back to U of M medical with that opinion and insisted he have surgery. U of M staff disagreed but All insisted so they offered some other people for All to reach out to for other opinions. Including some surgeons. All then opted to go to this place in Florida to have a surgery done against Harbaugh/U of M medical/U of M staffs wishes. All assumed because him and Harbaugh are close that Harbaugh would go to bat for him and get him cleared after the surgery. U of M medical told him if he went out of network there was a strong likelihood they wouldn’t clear him to play for U of M after. Again, he assumed his great relationship with Harbaugh would come into play and Harbaugh would get him cleared. Harbaugh didn’t want to address until after the season. Now that the regular season is over they had a discussion and Harbaugh essentially told him he doesn’t have control over U of M clearing him medically.
Essentially he shouldn’t have gone out of network to the place he did to get his surgery. They don’t feel the place he went was up to par basically. U of M medical now won’t clear him and All feels like Harbaugh turned his back on him because Harbaugh will not help him get cleared. U of M medical has made it clear he will not be allowed to play for the U of M and there is essentially nothing Harbaugh can do. All thought him being close to Harbaugh would change that somehow and he would get special treatment after explicitly not listening to anyone on the U of M staff. Its not even that he couldn’t get surgery, it’s that he went to a non-reputable place to have it done and they don’t feel comfortable with what went down so they won’t clear him for fear of him getting hurt worse.
There you go. I would guess Seth or Brian can verify this because it came directly from a guy in the AD.
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All mad he didn't feel included with the team when Michigan petitioned the NCAA to let him travel to OSU
. You went against Michigan trainers' advice. Michigan is very cautious with injuries remember Benjamin St-Juste? love that response from Schoon
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Tells you a lot when 2 supposed "Captains" leave the real talent taken over this program now 
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From Sam about 30 minutes ago..
Mondays are bunker days for me… locked in recordings and film studies at the station from 6am to 9pm (at the earliest). Because of that I was with Devin Gardner when the Erick All news broke, and upon hearing it, neither of us were surprised that he’d come to that decision. Not because we had heard inklings of that being his plan, but because we’d heard about a long period of discontent on his part.
At various points during the fall, All had shared that he was feeling a bit like the forgotten man after his injury/surgery. Sources indicated he felt he wasn’t being included, reached out to, checked on – almost as if he wasn’t a part of the team because of his injury. (Notice the lack of shout out to the program and coaches that you typically see in departure messages). It’s not for any of us to say whether that feeling was warranted or not. It was how he felt, and my gut tells me it’s that sentiment being being conveyed to in his tweets.
I don’t find his departure as cause for alarm. It's always a blow when you lose a good player, but Michigan has already recovered admirably. The team's culture and chemistry are clearly strong, and the offense will be fine at tight end. And obviously, given the success absent McNamara and All, the leadership quotient is just fine too. Meanwhile, All can seek out a situation he feels is more conducive to his success moving forward.
You’re never going to have a roster totally devoid of grievance (real or imagined), and this is one of those times where it’s best for the sides to part ways.
Finally, a word about the criticism of any recruiting that McNamara might be doing. I don’t think people whose fandom has been affected by him doing so are wrong for feeling that way, but I don’t think it makes him a bad guy either. What if Olu Oluwatimi has been talking to Fentrell Cypress about Michigan? Is that an underhanded thing to do on his part, or is that just a sign of the times in college football? I think it’s the latter and it's something that fans should get used to. McNamara and All are friends, and All was already feeling like he didn’t fit in Ann Arbor anymore… of course he’s going to recruit his friend. And Iowa would be a great place for All (if he winds up there). A tight end friendly offense where he’s guaranteed to be the QB’s preferred target? He’d be challenged to find a better scenario.
At the same time, I don’t think folks should be concerned about receivers following McNamara to Iowa City. That’s going to be a MUCH tougher sell given the paltry role wideouts play there. Look no further than Charlie Jones as an example of the graveyard Iowa has become for the position. And for the record, I checked specifically on rumors about Darrius Clemons possibly being in the crosshairs and was told unequivocally, “no way! Darrius is happy at Michigan.”
We’ll be keeping our ears to the ground for more portal buzz in the coming hours and days.
At various points during the fall, All had shared that he was feeling a bit like the forgotten man after his injury/surgery. Sources indicated he felt he wasn’t being included, reached out to, checked on – almost as if he wasn’t a part of the team because of his injury. (Notice the lack of shout out to the program and coaches that you typically see in departure messages). It’s not for any of us to say whether that feeling was warranted or not. It was how he felt, and my gut tells me it’s that sentiment being being conveyed to in his tweets.
I don’t find his departure as cause for alarm. It's always a blow when you lose a good player, but Michigan has already recovered admirably. The team's culture and chemistry are clearly strong, and the offense will be fine at tight end. And obviously, given the success absent McNamara and All, the leadership quotient is just fine too. Meanwhile, All can seek out a situation he feels is more conducive to his success moving forward.
You’re never going to have a roster totally devoid of grievance (real or imagined), and this is one of those times where it’s best for the sides to part ways.
Finally, a word about the criticism of any recruiting that McNamara might be doing. I don’t think people whose fandom has been affected by him doing so are wrong for feeling that way, but I don’t think it makes him a bad guy either. What if Olu Oluwatimi has been talking to Fentrell Cypress about Michigan? Is that an underhanded thing to do on his part, or is that just a sign of the times in college football? I think it’s the latter and it's something that fans should get used to. McNamara and All are friends, and All was already feeling like he didn’t fit in Ann Arbor anymore… of course he’s going to recruit his friend. And Iowa would be a great place for All (if he winds up there). A tight end friendly offense where he’s guaranteed to be the QB’s preferred target? He’d be challenged to find a better scenario.
At the same time, I don’t think folks should be concerned about receivers following McNamara to Iowa City. That’s going to be a MUCH tougher sell given the paltry role wideouts play there. Look no further than Charlie Jones as an example of the graveyard Iowa has become for the position. And for the record, I checked specifically on rumors about Darrius Clemons possibly being in the crosshairs and was told unequivocally, “no way! Darrius is happy at Michigan.”
We’ll be keeping our ears to the ground for more portal buzz in the coming hours and days.
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How good is he?
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ASU 247 says he was one of their best players he barely played this year. Broke a bone in his hand
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