oh, ok...that's the internet for you: full of the smartest people in the world, that can release the perfect product that's never delayed, but only release the thought of that on the internet....
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oh, ok...that's the internet for you: full of the smartest people in the world, that can release the perfect product that's never delayed, but only release the thought of that on the internet....
It's a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation. If they include MP and the SP isn't groundbreaking, people will say the inclusion of the MP took away resources that could've went to the SP campaign. If the MP is garbage, they'll say the same thing.
It's a damned if they do, damned if they don't situation. If they include MP and the SP isn't groundbreaking, people will say the inclusion of the MP took away resources that could've went to the SP campaign. If the MP is garbage, they'll say the same thing.
which is why they need to say 'fukk multiplayer'.....they've gone this far saying no mp, they concentrating on making the best sp they can; they need to stick to that....if they add mp at this point, it would be tacked on, which isn't a good thing....besides, every game doesn't need mp....
I wish Uncharted 3 was delayed. I mean, that game was a far cry from Uncharted 2 and it was still a great game but come on... That shyt was not as polished as Uncharted 2. Now I bet sony fans had a great time saying "UCNCHARTED 3!!!!" on game forums when in response to Xbot bait but was it really worth it?? A game getting patches to fix and include content that should've been there since day 1??
your definitely right as long as they give a great satisfying single player experience its definitely worth it...but the fact that it was third person I was looking forward to a multiplayer that wasn't a damn FPS where you can't even compete because 14 yr olds play about 10 hours a day refining their skills
uncharted 3 wasn't a bad game, it just followed uncharted 2, which is one of the best games ever...that's the main negative that gets held against it: it gets compared to uncharted 2...that's it....if that's the main gripe people have against your game, that it's not better than one of the best games ever, you did something right...
Uncharted 3 I agree wasn't "bad" but there was a lot of things missing and not as polished as compared to 2. It wasn't simply "it wasn't as good", things were simply lacking.
SP was slightly shorter, the devs said the campaign was designed around setpieces, there were characters that just weren't fully developed(Marlowe, cutter, Talbot etc.), MP was unbalanced and had downgraded gfx, campaign was missing end game features such as new costumes and special effects(No gravity mode etc). It was a lower quality game, Naughty Dog even said themselves they had to rush it out for the Nov. 1st deadline.
And let's not pretend that "exclusives" have'nt been a cornerstone of playstation consoles since the first one. If we were to talk about last gen now, the first thing you'd bring up is exclusives, but now since that isn't an advantage for Sony, you're all about multiplats. But also according to you crossgen titles aren't any better on PS4. So really what's the point in having one?
It's funny to see you mention "fanboys" and "list wars" seeing how you are the main one here that likes to posts lists and celebrate when/if games don't perform well on the other side.
Cool neogaf talking point, but what does that have to do with the fact that Sony promised a bunch of stuff they are not delivering.
I have no problem with a game being held until it is the best it can be. The problem is when they give you a date knowing damn well they can't make that date.
i'm not denying those, but the main gripe against the game is it wasn't uncharted 2, and that's what people were comparing it to....if uc2 and uc3 switched places, people would've enjoyed uc3 a lot more cause it would've been following part 1, which it's better than...and uc2 would still be looked at as one of the best games ever...
also, after uc2, ND split the devs into 2 teams....I think that had a part to play in it as well....
I'd rather delay though to get it right.
My thing is that these companies need to make sure the release date is reasonable to not disappoint players. Set a date farther out and if you can move it UP we'd love it.
I'd rather delay though to get it right.
My thing is that these companies need to make sure the release date is reasonable to not disappoint players. Set a date farther out and if you can move it UP we'd love it.
i agree...I actually dont think they should release a date at all until they sure the game can come out....but you know companies like to throw out dates for placeholder reasons....
specifically in regards to the order: i dont get the backlash for the delay, they never released a date for the game....they said 2014, that was it...
If we were to talk about last gen, I'd bring up exclusives because I'm pretty sure the third party games a particular person wants is covered already so now exclusives would be the talking point. Exclusives being a main talking point doesn't negate the importance of third party games seeing as how they are the best selling titles. GTA, Assassins Creed, NBA, Madden, COD, Street Fighter etc. THOSE games are the best selling titles, not Killzone or Infamous.
"but now since that isn't an advantage for Sony, you're all about multiplats. But also according to you crossgen titles aren't any better on PS4. So really what's the point in having one? "
Do you have a time machine?? How can you boldly claim exclusives aren't an advantage for Sony this gen when we are only a few months in?? Oh and I've said crossgen titles aren't any better on PS4??Nikka, EVERY DAY we go through this, PS4 is the better choice for multiplats if you're on console point blank. Better is better.
Just because a PC version exists doesn't mean everyone has a "PC" that can play it. Every PS4 owner doesn't own a PC with a GTX 780 TI and Intel 4770K.
"PC" isn't one box that you buy from the store premade to give you 1080p/60fps on all games. Hell Watchdogs is giving cats problems on even high end systems. Hell, nobody is reported having locked 60fps gameplay, the same type of performance that you claim needs to be met in order for a game to be "true 60fps".hell, Watch Dogs has terrible performance on my rig and in a special situation like this, I'd play the PS4 version if I wanted to play it with no big frame dips. I sure as hell wouldn't jump to the Xbox One version seeing as how it's the lesser performing version of both consoles.
Posting facts that seem fanboyish to you is your perspective and that's your prerogative to see it that way. Facts is facts. If I say, MGS:GZ is 1080p/60fps "Lol
" and "MGS:GZ is 1080p/60fps on PS4 and 720p/60fps on XB1", I'm still saying the same thing. A point is a point, stop deflecting. Sony promised a bunch of stuff?? Did they cancel these games?? Have games never been delayed before?? Did you express this sentiment when Destiny was delayed saying Bungie isn't delivering on their promises?? Did you express this reasoning when Ubisoft delayed Watch Dogs?? Did you care that GTA V was delayed saying Rockstar wasn't delivering on their promises? Ni No Kuni, your favorite PS3 game as told by you was delayed to 2013, was that promise of an amazing game delivered??
Do you work in the game industry?? This is armchair analyst rhetoric you're spewing here. It's obviously about delivering that 'promise' that you talk about.
If they promised to give us a game that's as polished all throughout the whole game and to do that, it would take time, why not delay it?? You just said you don't mind a game being held back so how can you contradict yourself in the very next sentence saying it's a problem when a date given isn't able to be made. Do you even know what the word "delay" means? I quite frankly think your whole shtick is just concern trolling
. You see me making a stink that Halo 5 is coming out next year as opposed to this year when last year they showed a Halo trailer?
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Oh so exclusives are only a main talking point when the advantage goes to Sony. Otherwise they don't matter
Don't need a time machine to see that Xbox is offering the better games currently. Do you have a time machine before you start telling me about "Sony's history of great exclusives"Do you have a time machine?? How can you boldly claim exclusives aren't an advantage for Sony this gen when we are only a few months in?? Oh and I've said crossgen titles arent' any better on PS4?? Nikka, EVERY DAY we go through this, PS4 is the better choice for multiplats if you're on console point blank. Just because a PC version exists doesn't mean everyone has a "PC" that can play it. Every PS4 owner doesn't own a PC with a GTX 780 TI and Intel 4770K.
And nah you said next gen multiplats aren't even better than their last gen counterparts, now you wanna claim multiplats on PS4 are much better than x1. This is another case of your lying ass contradictions collapsing upon themselves.
And you don't need very expensive/powerful hardware to outperform consoles, PC gamer including yourself have been quick to point that out. Are you now changing your story again?
Oh so games lists are only for "fanboy list wars" unless fatboi is posting them, then they are facts of course.
There seems to be a common theme when debating with you. Truths are conditional and "facts" only reside within your already predetermined narrative.
I.E. you are the biggest fanboy here. It's disgusting
only point you made is that this isn't the first game to be delayed. Nobody argued against that point so it is.....pointlessYes a lot of the features and games they said would be offered by ps4 aren't there. Plenty of things they sold the console on are nonexistent right now. Had a purchased a PS4 at launch I would be disappointed, and the news of this game being delayed would only add to that.
Difference is none of them were selling a $400 console based on the fact that the games would be available. But to answer your question yes a did express the same sentiment when watch dogs was delayed, it was/is a big reason why a bought an X1 even though it was not marketed that way by ubisoft or Microsoft.
I don't need to work in the industry to see neither "the order" or "driveclub" were anywhere near being ready by the dates Sony first put out there. Games don't just get "delayed" for an entire year. Back at E3 plenty of people within the industry said that driveclub and the order were not ready for prime time yet. Sony put out those dates in order to get people to buy a PS4. Instead of defending this blatant misleadinging practice by Sony, you should be calling them out for it.
A delay like TLOU is fine. They definitely thought they were gonna meet the date and they fell a bit short. A delay like this where the devs know damn well the game isn't far enough along to be throwing a date out there, are misleading and a bad practice in my opinion.
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A delay didn't make watch dogs anything more than a mid 80 metacritic game.
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This shyt bout to be dope.
I feel it in my bones.
When they were doing God of Wars on PSP I knew they were coming out with their own game one day.
These days are upon us!!!
I feel it in my bones.
When they were doing God of Wars on PSP I knew they were coming out with their own game one day.
These days are upon us!!!