Oh so exclusives are only a main talking point when the advantage goes to Sony. Otherwise they don't matter
We was talking about Sony, so I'm going to be talking about Sony exclusives, u mad? The conversation isn't about Xbox so why are you even alluding to them?
Don't need a time machine to see that Xbox is offering the better games currently. Do you have a time machine before you start telling me about "Sony's history of great exclusives"
Subjective. Better games? name names?? Titanfall?? Killer Instinct? Ryse? Forza? Dead rising 3? That's all subjective. If they are better games than the games on PS4 out right now than that's you.
And nah you said next gen multiplats aren't even better than their last gen counterparts, now you wanna claim multiplats on PS4 are much better than x1. This is another case of your lying ass contradictions collapsing upon themselves.
This is why I hate debating with you, you like to twist words around. I know you said that because of that Wolfenstein game. Just becaues ONE game isn't really looking that much better than it's last gen counterpart doesn't mean EVERY game doesn't look better than their last gen counterpart. Can we stop with the "You said____________" talking points?? If you can't quote me on that, then don't say anything. I'm not the one claiming PS4 multiplats are better, Digital Foundry said so.
And you don't need very expensive/powerful hardware to outperform consoles, PC gamer including yourself have been quick to point that out. Are you now changing your story again?
Have you played Watch Dogs on PC yet?? I have a slightly better GPU in my PC than the PS4 which I heard has something in between a 7850-7870. The CPU in my rig isn't all that great as it's a dual core cpu advertised as a quad core CPU(AMD FX4100). The CPU in the PS4 is equivalent to say an i3 I heard. My CPU is weaker than that. It's not hard to grasp why Watch Dogs can run with issues on my rig. Watch Dogs also seems to be more optimized for Nvidia systems, I have an AMD card. Is it hard to put two and two together?
Oh so games lists are only for "fanboy list wars" unless fatboi is posting them, then they are facts of course.
You can call it fanboy lists or w/e, they're still facts. That's your problem, you seem to take issue with when I post information but you can hardly ever refute them because they're grounded in facts, not fiction. I don't post dumb shyt saying "UNCHARTED 4 2014, TLG 2014!!!". I post info pertaining to what's been given out.
There seems to be a common theme when debating with you. Truths are conditional and "facts" only reside within your already predetermined narrative.
Spare me the false epiphany you're having here.
I.E. you are the biggest fanboy here. It's disgusting
You're the most rational, unbiased, informative poster on here. I'm sure many would disagree with me as they would with your statement but let's not start resorting to ad hominems.

only point you made is that this isn't the first game to be delayed. Nobody argued against that point so it is.....pointless
which brings me to this......
Yes a lot of the features and games they said would be offered by ps4 aren't there. Plenty of things they sold the console on are nonexistent right now. Had a purchased a PS4 at launch I would be disappointed, and the news of this game being delayed would only add to that.
When the Xbox 1 launched, was every feature available day 1?? Because if you say yes, you're basically gong to have to admit that you're point is biased. I wouldn't be surprised at you being disappointed about a PS4, that's the common theme with y'all concerned trolls.
Difference is none of them were selling a $400 console based on the fact that the games would be available. But to answer your question yes a did express the same sentiment when watch dogs was delayed, it was/is a big reason why a bought an X1 even though it was not marketed that way by ubisoft or Microsoft.
If the PS4 is selling at the rate it is now with the reality that it has " no games

" like you guys like to say, why would they even have to rush any games out?? Microsoft was in a more dire situation to reveal games and such since their PR with the customers was pretty bad a few months ago and still kinda is but it's improving. Games are coming, they take time, what's the issue?? Funny thing is you wouldn't have known about any of those games y'all talk about on Xbox had it not been for that leak by that Ntkrnl guy on gaf. NONE of y'all knew about a Halo 2 remake or Forza Horizon 2. If things were quiet, we'd realistically only know about Sunset overdrive and Quantam Break(is that even coming this year?) Watch Dogs is out today right?? You're at ease now, it's been released and the big multiplatform game you wanted is out now.
I don't need to work in the industry to see neither "the order" or "driveclub" were anywhere near being ready by the dates Sony first put out there. Games don't just get "delayed" for an entire year.
Games don't get delayed for an entire year??? What about Half Life 2? Or Alan Wake? Super Mario 3D Land for the 3DS?? The legend of zelda twilight princess was delayed for a year. Did your expert analysis see those games being delayed?
Back at E3 plenty of people within the industry said that driveclub and the order were not ready for prime time yet. Sony put out those dates in order to get people to buy a PS4. Instead of defending this blatant misleadinging practice by Sony, you should be calling them out for it.
Sony put out those dates to get people to buy a PS4, I am shocked!! You don't mean to tell me Sony is a business?? Sony put out a date, the devs said they want the game to be like this and Sony granted them that wish. Instead of giving them another Uncharted 3 situation, they delayed it. How is delaying a game misleading?? We again go back to the multiplat argument in that people buy these systems mainly for third party games. Look at the biggest thread on here, is it the Titanfall thread, is it the killer instinct thread or Forza thread?? No, guess what it's the Battlefield 4 thread, the NBA 2k threads. Those are the games people buy systems for.
The reality of it is that everybody wasn't rushing out to get a PS4 JUST for Driveclub, it would've nicely complimented the purchase seeing as it would've came as a free trial version.
A delay like TLOU is fine. They definitely thought they were gonna meet the date and they fell a bit short. A delay like this where the devs know damn well the game isn't far enough along to be throwing a date out there, are misleading and a bad practice in my opinion.
How do you know what the devs know?? Again you don't work there, so stfu. You and these bold claims are ridiculous. I should make a thread stating my concern with Halo 5 being released next year when at E3 they said the next journey starts in 2014. At that time we didn't know about any Halo 2 hd rumors or w/e but now they come out and say Halo 5 next year and conveniently could release Halo remake like "Oh we were talking about Halo 2

". Is that misleading?? Should you be "calling them out" for that misleading language?? Or is this a non issue because it's an xbox game?
You need to relax with all this concern you have for a console you don't own. You're in a thread for a PS4 game of which you think the game looks boring but you're hear telling people they should rage over the internet over a damn game delay. Get it together man.