The PBC and Errol Spence continue to D U C K Terrence Bud Crawford

[Black_Jesus]

Tim Smith: Fans will STEAL Crawford vs. Spence on pay-per-view

Yall heard it here 1st.. Read this bullshyt

Economics a

Economics and you don’t really want to insult a guy like Terence Crawford, who is a tremendous talent, and I’m not taking away anything from his talent,” said Tim Smith of Premier Boxing Champions when asked why the Errol Spence Jr. vs. Crawford fight hasn’t been made.

But he hasn’t been built into a pay-per-view star,” Smith continued about Crawford failing to capitalize on his success inside the ring by turning into a big money attraction.

“I’m not saying that to throw shade at the guy, but you’ve got to go on his track record,” said Smith about Crawford not being a PPV draw. “You’ve got to go and look at what he’s done in the pay-per-view fights he’s been at, been involved in.

It’s not my job to tell anybody how to tell him [Crawford] how to make him a pay-per-view star. We have enough work on our hands trying to make our own guys into pay-per-view guys, but he just hasn’t been built,” Smith said of Crawford having not been built into a PPV star by his former promoters.

“Trust me, if there was money in him fighting Errol Spence and he could get what he wants, and Errol could get what he wants, that fight would get made, but you don’t want to insult the guy,” Smith said of Crawford.


Nobody wants to insult the guy and make him an offer that’s insulting,” Smith continued about Crawford. “Nobody wants to do that. Like I said, he’s a proud champion, and you don’t want to do that to him.

“From a business standpoint, it’s a fight that might excite the fans and all the people out there yelling about pay-per-view and too much. They’re not buying it [Spence vs. Crawford] anyway. They’re not going to plop down any money to make it successful.

“They’re going to steal the fight, but they’re not going to support it on pay-per-view. The numbers won’t be enough to give him what he needs,” Smith said of Crawford. “Well, not necessarily what he needs. What he wants.


I don’t know what that number is, but I would think that number would be VERY high. I’m not involved in those talks. That’s just looking at the sport historically, and I don’t think he should be insulted, I really don’t,” Smith said of Crawford.

It’s too risky to make a fight between Crawford and Spence if you’re a promoter because Terence doesn’t have a proven track record on PPV.

All you can go on is Crawford’s failed PPV fights with Shawn Porter, Amir Khan, and Viktor Postol when trying to determine whether it’s worth the risk of putting together a match between him and Spence.

 

[JP_614]

This fight will happen give it time fellas

 

[Black Miller]

I'll give Spence the benefit of the doubt. He said he wants to clean up his side first. But Bud been calling him out for years. That fight been coulda happened even while Spence was claiming Thurman, Porter Danny was ducking him. Bud came to the division and was willing to get down after getting a belt.

If Spence get past ugas and then don't make the fight with Bud it's a duck in my mind.

He deserved his get back fight with Danny after the accident and this ugas is fine coming back from the eye injury. But if he looks good, and has no major injuries afterwards-If he don't make this bud fight afterwards that's flat out ducking.

All this 60-40, 70-30 my ppvs sold more, etc stop it. Find a way to make the fight. All these business dudes should be able to reach a compromise. Now that bud is a free agent, you can't talk that Bob arum won't pay, ESPN blah blah.

Floyd back in 09-10 was a bigger name then Manny. But Manny was doing his thing heavy back then big time also, Floyd still agreed to 50 50 cause he wanted to give out work. So as a fan, I'm not trying to hear that.

Let's just see this fight made afterwards, so I can be there live! Catch these guys before someone get upset, too many good fights been lost due to trying to marinate them.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I'll give Spence the benefit of the doubt. He said he wants to clean up his side first. But Bud been calling him out for years. That fight been coulda happened even while Spence was claiming Thurman, Porter Danny was ducking him. Bud came to the division and was willing to get down after getting a belt.

If Spence get past ugas and then don't make the fight with Bud it's a duck in my mind.

He deserved his get back fight with Danny after the accident and this ugas is fine coming back from the eye injury. But if he looks good, and has no major injuries afterwards-If he don't make this bud fight afterwards that's flat out ducking.

All this 60-40, 70-30 my ppvs sold more, etc stop it. Find a way to make the fight. All these business dudes should be able to reach a compromise. Now that bud is a free agent, you can't talk that Bob arum won't pay, ESPN blah blah.

Floyd back in 09-10 was a bigger name then Manny. But Manny was doing his thing heavy back then big time also, Floyd still agreed to 50 50 cause he wanted to give out work. So as a fan, I'm not trying to hear that.

Let's just see this fight made afterwards, so I can be there live! Catch these guys before someone get upset, too many good fights been lost due to trying to marinate them.

Have you ever heard a fighter in the history of boxing say they need to clean up an imaginary side before he can fight another champ.. Answer that question 1st before you give him the benefit of the doubt.. Especially seeing as though Bud left TR which killed the whole "side of street" excuse and they STILL made no attempt to make the fight...
Imagine Floyd telling the public he not fighting Manny until he collects every other belt or cleans up his side of the street.. Why are people excepting these bullshyt excuses from a ducking ass nikka?

 

[Black Miller]

Have you ever heard a fighter in the history of boxing say they need to clean up an imaginary side before he can fight another champ.. Answer that question 1st before you give him the benefit of the doubt.. Especially seeing as though Bud left TR which killed the whole "side of street" excuse and they STILL made no attempt to make the fight...
Imagine Floyd telling the public he not fighting Manny until he collects every other belt or cleans up his side of the street.. Why are people excepting these bullshyt excuses from a ducking ass nivva?

To answer your question no I have never heard that.

I hear you but Spence is unifying a belt so I'll let that rock but afterwards any funny business with the negotiations, he ducking. I thought he deserved another fight before Bud due to eye injury also. I wouldn't want him to come in with that uncertainty. Get past Ugas then let's make it happen.

Bud wouldn't want that neither, cause if he fought Spence right after the eye injury and won by a stoppage or something with the eye. He wouldn't get the proper credit. I think Spence deserves to make sure he good with a good fight vs Ugas. I'm looking forward to the fight as well because I don't think it's an easy fight for Spence.

The same way- Bud had Porter and Thurman calling him out for the past year and didn't take it. They was willing to get it popping and Bob arum was being cheap so it just the business of boxing.So he could have had championship level rights at 147 before Spence.

I don't got a horse in the race just calling it like I see it

 

[R=G]

Lol...these cats are gonna be in shock in April.

 

[Black_Jesus]

To answer your question no I have never heard that.

I hear you but Spence is unifying a belt so I'll let that rock but afterwards any funny business with the negotiations, he ducking. I thought he deserved another fight before Bud due to eye injury also. I wouldn't want him to come in with that uncertainty. Get past Ugas then let's make it happen.

Bud wouldn't want that neither, cause if he fought Spence right after the eye injury and won by a stoppage or something with the eye. He wouldn't get the proper credit. I think Spence deserves to make sure he good with a good fight vs Ugas. I'm looking forward to the fight as well because I don't think it's an easy fight for Spence.

The same way- Bud had Porter and Thurman calling him out for the past year and didn't take it. They was willing to get it popping and Bob arum was being cheap so it just the business of boxing.So he could have had championship level rights at 147 before Spence.

I don't got a horse in the race just calling it like I see it

I dont know what it is that makes yall refuse to accept a clear duck move being displayed right in front of your face.

How could you be okay with Spence going into a unification with Ugas with eye uncertainty but vs Crawford its ..
It would be one thing if Spence was taking a soft touch tuneup, but he's telling boxing fans he dont need a tuneup and yelling "strap season" and fans are giving him a pass to fight any and everyone else not named Bud Crawford like Bud some mythical Final Boss that Spence need protection from..

Porter and Thurman were pricing themselves out and were looking for career high paydays just to step in the ring with him.. they were looking to get paid more than what they got paid to face Spence and Pacquiao as champion

 

[Black Miller]

I dont know what it is that makes yall refuse to accept a clear duck move being displayed right in front of your face.

How could you be okay with Spence going into a unification with Ugas with eye uncertainty but vs Crawford its ..
It would be one thing if Spence was taking a soft touch tuneup, but he's telling boxing fans he dont need a tuneup and yelling "strap season" and fans are giving him a pass to fight any and everyone else not named Bud Crawford like Bud some mythical Final Boss that Spence need protection from..

Porter and Thurman were pricing themselves out and were looking for career high paydays just to step in the ring with him.. they were looking to get paid more than what they got paid to face Spence and Pacquiao as champion

I'm cool with the unification or any fight as long as I know Spence come out of it clean and healthy so when he faces bud they both in top shape and no excuses can be made on either side.

Technically Bud had his chance to go over and deal with PBC but chose to re-up with top rank when he knew Bob wasn't getting him the fights he wanted years ago. So that's the choice he made he gotta live with. So you can make a case he had the chance for the fights earlier but chose his comfy paydays and mandatory fights. Or even fighting a faded Amir Khan a PBC fighter or Kell brook when Thurman and Porter was willing to fight.

Both have made moves that can be questioned. Neither is holier than thou. But I guess you got all the good reasoning for Bud moves? Please enlighten me.

 

[Black_Jesus]

I'm cool with the unification or any fight as long as I know Spence come out of it clean and healthy so when he faces bud they both in top shape and no excuses can be made on either side.

Technically Bud had his chance to go over and deal with PBC but chose to re-up with top rank when he knew Bob wasn't getting him the fights he wanted years ago. So that's the choice he made he gotta live with. So you can make a case he had the chance for the fights earlier but chose his comfy paydays and mandatory fights. Or even fighting a faded Amir Khan a PBC fighter or Kell brook when Thurman and Porter was willing to fight.

Both have made moves that can be questioned. Neither is holier than thou. But I guess you got all the good reasoning for Bud moves? Please enlighten me.

Why do you keep mentioning this fakkit Thurman?? Who did nothing but dismiss a fight with Crawford and later priced himself out demanding $10m coming off a loss with no belt.. A nikka that has only fought 3 times in the past 5 years.. And as for Porter.. Bud fought and stopped Porter

Why do you keep bringing up TR and Arum when none of that is relevant anymore.. Bud is a free agent and the fight still isn't getting made and PBC just told you they have no intention of getting the fight made.. yet ya still making excuses for the blatant ducking smh can't make this shyt up..

If you cool with the unification vs Ugas then you should be screaming for a unification vs Crawford.. If Bud whoops Spence they will blame the accident anyway..

 

[shopthatwrecks]

Why do you keep mentioning this fakkit Thurman?? Who did nothing but dismiss a fight with Crawford and later priced himself out demanding $10m coming off a loss with no belt.. A nikka that has only fought 3 times in the past 5 years.. And as for Porter.. Bud fought and stopped Porter

Why do you keep bringing up TR and Arum when none of that is relevant anymore.. Bud is a free agent and the fight still isn't getting made and PBC just told you they have no intention of getting the fight made.. yet ya still making excuses for the blatant ducking smh can't make this shyt up..

If you cool with the unification vs Ugas then you should be screaming for a unification vs Crawford.. If Bud whoops Spence they will blame the accident anyway..

they wont blame the accident ..kuz all the accident did was knock out teeth...

he wins he wins...

 

[Black_Jesus]

they wont blame the accident ..kuz all the accident did was knock out teeth...

he wins he wins...

They will say "Spence was never the same after the accident accident" mark my words.. they will say the same if he struggles or loses to Ugas

 

[GzUp]

Can’t blame bob anymore

 

[Derek Lee]

fukk off, Tim

 

[Controversy]

Errol is getting the 3rd belt so he can fight Bud to be undisputed

Win or lose against Bud, Errol is going to 154 sometime next yr

 

[Black_Jesus]

Errol is getting the 3rd belt so he can fight Bud to be undisputed

Win or lose against Bud, Errol is going to 154 sometime next yr

Errol doesn't need a 3rd belt to fight Bud.. and their fight doesn't need to be undisputed.. Thats what they have brainwashed you for the last 2-3 years into believing so Errol could continue ducking.. Meanwhile PBC just told you they have no interest in making the fight and yall still saying stupid shyt like this?? Arum was right when he said a sucker is born every minute Yall can't even see the whool being pulled in front ya eyes