The People That Use Snopes.com As A Legit News Source Need To Read This

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You still trust Snopes after reading this you like the river in Egypt cause you are in denial.

Fact-checking website Snopes is on the verge of financial collapse after its owner was accused of embezzling company funds to pay for his contentious divorce battle and lavish overseas trips with his new wife, a former Las Vegas escort and porn actress.

The company's financial woes have gotten so bad that Snopes' owner David Mikkelson started a crowd-funding website pleading for donations this week, which raised over $500,000 from generous readers in its first day.

But DailyMail.com can disclose significant facts which are entirely missing from the fact-checking website's version of events - including the fraud allegations against Mikkeslon.

Snopes.com was started by David Mikkelson and his ex-wife Barbara in the mid-1990s as a website that debunked myths and urban legends.

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Fraud claims: In legal papers, Snopes founder David Mikkelson is accused of fraud against the company by its co-owners, who say he put his honeymoon with second wife Elyssa Young on expenses and that he had previously paid her for escort services

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Fundraising effort: The 'fact checking' website is using GoFundMe to solicit donations but its statement on it misses out many of the facts behind its financial difficulties - principally that Mikkeslon is being accused of fraud

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'Lavish salary': Court papers show that Mikkeslon is at the center of the legal dispute over claims that he tried to commit fraud to obtain his salary, put escorts expenses, used company funds to pay legal fees for his divorce and honeymooned with his new wife Elyssa Young on expenses

In recent years, it has started to delve into the area of politics and 'fact-checking' so-called 'fake news' stories.

After the presidential election, Snopes was chosen by Facebook to sit on a panel of arbiters who would determine whether news stories posted to the social media site were 'fake news.'

But at the same time, DailyMail.com revealed in December, the two co-founders were involved in a bitter divorce battle in which he was accused of embezzling nearly $100,000 in company funds to spend on personal expenses and prostitutes.

Barbara asked a court at the time to restrict Mikkelson's bank access, claiming his wild spending was going to deplete the company's accounts.

Now an advertising and internet services company called Proper Media is making similar accusations against Mikkelson in a lawsuit filed in May in California which is scheduled for a court hearing next month.

Proper Media's owners last year purchased 50 percent of Bardav Inc., the company founded by both Mikkelsons that owns Snopes, taking Barbara's 50 per cent share.

Proper Media claims that over the past year Mikkelson 'engaged in a lengthy scheme of concealment and subterfuge to gain control of the company and to drain its profits.'

Mikkelson counters that Proper Media – which Snopes also contracts for advertising work – has been holding the website 'hostage' by 'withholding advertising revenue.'

In a plea for donations this week, the Snopes founder said the website 'is in danger of closing its doors' due to Proper Media allegedly refusing to turn over ad income or relinquish its control of advertising on the website.

'Our legal team is fighting hard for us, but, having been cut off from all revenue, we are facing the prospect of having no financial means to continue operating the site and paying our staff (not to mention covering our legal fees) in the meanwhile,' said Mikkelson.

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Courtestan: Eryn O'Bryn is the stage name for Elyssa Young, who continues to have a website offering her services as a 'courtesan' in which she has shared pictures from her past. Court papers allege that her honeymoon with David Mikkleson, who is also her boss, went on expenses

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Damaging allegations: These are the claims against Mikkelson which are at the heart of the dispute which he claims could lead to Snopes.com being closed. They are not mentioned on his SaveSnopes.com website or in a GoFundMe set up for Snopes.

But Proper Media insists that Mikkelson's personal spending and mismanagement is to blame for Snopes's money woes.

In legal papers filed in San Diego Superior Court, they say: 'But while Snopes is built entirely around the concepts of transparency and truth, its founder, Defendant David Mikkelson ('Mikkelson') has engaged in a lengthy scheme of concealment and subterfuge to gain control of the company and to drain its profits.'

The company says Mikkelson unilaterally broke the advertising contract earlier this year and has bristled at shareholder efforts to rein in his spending.

They note that even as Mikkelson claimed to be under financial duress in court filings in June, he signed the documents while on a trip to Orleans, France.

'If Mikkelson is permitted to continue unabated as a director of Bardav, he will irreversibly drain the company of important financial resources through personal and unnecessary expenditures,' said Proper Media in the lawsuit.

The company also claims Mikkelson carried out 'pervasive fraud' at Snopes and used the accounts to pay for lavish trips and personal items while refusing requests from shareholders to examine his expenditures.

According to the lawsuit, Mikkelson spent 'tens of thousands of dollars' from the company on legal fees for his acrimonious divorce from Barbara last year, a drawn-out battle that included disputes over Mikkelson's salary and alleged spending on prostitutes.

Court documents from their divorce and its aftermath revealed that he wanted to be paid $720,000 a year.

He is also accused of spending 'tens of thousands of dollars' on personal trips, including a honeymoon with his new wife to Tokyo Disneyland.

The lawsuit claims Mikkelson spent money on Young, who he married last year.

Young was an escort in Las Vegas up until at least 2015 and charged $500 per hour, according to her website.

She has also starred in adult films under the name 'Erin O'Bryn,' and ran unsuccessfully for congress in Hawaii as a Libertarian in 2004.

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Financial stake: Barbara Mikkleson sold her 50 per cent stake in the company which owns Snopes.com's, BarDav, to the five equity owners of Proper Media, including Drew Schoentrup

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Fall-out: Proper Media, including Christopher Richmond (left) are suing Snopes.com. Their former co-worker Vincent Green (right) now works for Snopes and they say he is part of the fraud

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Bitter divorce: Claims of prostitute use have been made already, by Barbara Mikkelson. David Mikkelson has not mentioned them at all on his Snopes.com website or addressed whether they are factually true.

Her site, which is still online, describes her as 'an elite courtesan who provides discreet companionship for those who appreciate the finer things in life.'

'I have an adult woman's build and and the soul of an indomitable force of nature burning within it,' she wrote.

Young now works as an administrative assistant at Snopes.

Mikkelson claimed in legal filings that Bardav Inc. spends $165,000 per month running Snopes.com – a cost that is larger than the advertising revenue Proper Media says the website brings in.

'Bardav's claims of financial distress are gravely concerning,' said Proper Media. 'Mikkelson, by his own admission, is operating Bardav at a monthly deficit and cannot be trusted with the Bardav purse strings.'

'[N]otably, while he argues that Bardav is on the brink of collapse, [Mikkelson] signed his declaration in Orleans, France,' continued Proper Media.

The lawsuit also claims Mikkelson conspired with a former Proper Media employee named Vincent Green in an attempt to seize majority control of Bardav Inc. this spring.

Green, a Marine veteran who was vice president of operations at Proper Media, allegedly became close with Mikkelson while working on the Snopes.com website as part of his responsibilities at the advertising company.

'Throughout his employment, Green worked extensively on the Snopes website, and, as a result, came to personally know and befriend Mikkelson,' said the lawsuit.

'I have an adult woman's build and and the soul of an indomitable force of nature burning within it
How David Mikkleson's new wife describes herself on her website
In late February, Proper Media claims that Green removed the company's access to the Snopes content-management system, fired three Proper Media employees, and seized thousands of dollars of computer equipment from Proper Media's offices.

'On information and belief, Green did so in conspiracy with and at the direction of Mikkelson,' claimed the lawsuit.

In March, Green allegedly listed himself on Snopes.com's staff webpage as a business development employee. That month, he is also accused of removing 'Snopes-related data from Proper Media's communication and project-management tools, including Slack and Asana.'

That same day, Mikkelson allegedly terminated a business agreement with Proper Media to run the Snopes.com advertising, effective 60 days later. On April 1, Mikkelson removed Proper Media's access to the company bank account, the lawsuit claims.

But it wasn't until April 3 that Green officially submitted his resignation, according to the lawsuit. Proper Media claims that he violated his fiduciary duties to the company.

Proper Media is asking for punitive and exemplary damages, and is also asking a judge to remove Mikkelson as a Bardav Inc. director.

It even suggests the site could be closed completely.

The case, with its claims of misconduct, fraud and use of prostitutes, is not mentioned at all on the SaveSnopes.com website or its linked GoFundMe.

The GoFundMe remains open despite having exceeded its $500,000 goal within 25 hours of being set up.

Proper Media, Mikkelson and Facebook did not respond to request for comment.

However on Tuesday Mikkelson told another journalism website, Poynter.org, that the 'money we raised will be used to meet our basic operating expenses, the overwhelming bulk of which is the salaries of our staff'.

Poynter is one of the other sites Facebook said it would be turning to for arbitration on what stories on its feed are 'fake news'.
 

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AND AT NO POINT DOES THAT ARTICLE STATE THAT SNOPES ACTUAL FACT CHECKING WAS IN QUESTION - so why do "people who use it as a legit news source need to read this":jbhmm:

it just talks about fraud in their finances as the owner was paying escorts with his business money while writing them off as expenses.

the irony of posting this article is that snopes could cover you and your thirsty thread title as a debunked myth :mjlol:

y'all gonna learn to stop posting shyt you don't read... shytty puns aside :laff:
 
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Yup and there's a BUNCH of retards on this site that dikk suck snopes

@Dafunkdoc_Unlimited is one of them

I have that idiot on ignore so I won't see his juelzing in here

@Black Panther is another


Edit: Like clockwork:mjlol:
let a man who steals money for prostitutes then marries the prostitute then hires her at his company be the ethical fact checker for the world, bruhs.
 

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Article was from 2017. I responded to it then. :russell:
Using a site with conservative bias to state Snopes has a liberal bias :mjlol:

I argued that ad hominem attacks against its founders that have nothing to do with the veracity of their claims. Even them being liberally biased doesn't necessarily refute their truthfulness. You'd have to refute their actual fact-checking (i.e. show me where they were wrong on a fact checking article of theirs) for me to take you seriously.
 

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Yup and there's a BUNCH of retards on this site that dikk suck snopes

@Dafunkdoc_Unlimited is one of them

I have that idiot on ignore so I won't see his juelzing in here

@Black Panther is another


Edit: Like clockwork:mjlol:

Show me where the article says that their fact-checking articles were largely inaccurate, please.
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Yup and there's a BUNCH of retards on this site that dikk suck snopes

@Dafunkdoc_Unlimited is one of them

I have that idiot on ignore so I won't see his juelzing in here

@Black Panther is another


Edit: Like clockwork:mjlol:
of course the flat earther is caping without reading

boy this site is :mjlol:

might not be shea butter but this is the buzzfeed of brehs
 

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Show me where the article says that their fact-checking articles were largely inaccurate, please.
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facts

just one quote from the article above would be nice

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No need

Y'all are emotionally attached to that trash site

I've shown y'all many times across many threads that snopes is trash and y'all shown many times across many threads that y'all will believe your white daddy's website no matter what:francis:
 

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No need

Y'all are emotionally attached to that trash site

I've shown y'all many times across many threads that snopes is trash and y'all shown many times across many threads that y'all will believe your white daddy's website no matter what:francis:
no there is need. you ran in here talking shyt so find a quote to back up what you are saying in THIS article. don't start talking about other sources this thread was about this article :youngsabo:

c'mon breh cut the bullshyt and get to work.
 
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