The Political Mobilization of Afro-descendants in the Netherlands

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With The Far-Right Rising, Dutch Create Their Own Parties For Immigrants

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    As anti-immigrant sentiment rises in the the Netherlands, Dutch television and radio personality Sylvana Simons will be running for a parliamentary seat to help represent immigrants and minorities.

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    Sylvana Simons got her start as a soul music VJ on the Dutch version of MTV. She went on to anchor the evening news in the Netherlands, and performed on the local version of Dancing with the Stars.

    Simons, 45, is black and was born in the former Dutch colony of Suriname, in South America. Her family moved to the Netherlands when she was just one. She's spoken out against the Dutch Christmas tradition of Black Pete, in which Santa's helper is often played by a white person in blackface.

    That prompted someone to make a satirical music video about her, in which dancers in blackface sing, "Oh Sylvana, why don't you pack your bags and leave this country." After that, someone photoshopped pictures of her face onto old archive photos of lynching victims from the American South.

    "I've also received emails and written letters in which people described how they would like to see me killed, raped, burned alive," Simons told reporters in a rare interview in early December. "It's been an ongoing thing for the past two years."


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    Parliamentary candidate

    Simons is running for parliament in the Dutch elections this March. At first, she announced her candidacy with a new Dutch political party called Denk, or "think." It's one of the first parties in Europe founded by recent immigrants to represent their interests.

    Denk's candidates include a Muslim woman who wears a headscarf, people of Turkish and Moroccan descent and black people like Simons. All of them say they've felt left out of Dutch politics, especially now that the far-right, anti-Muslim leader Geert Wilders is surging in the polls.

    "People of color are not recognized as proper Dutch, and there is where the anger is, from people who are seen as second-class citizens, while they were born here," says Sandew Hira, an economist and historian who leads the International Institute for Scientific Research, which studies colonialism and is based in The Hague.

    Denk, founded two years ago by two Dutch-Turkish members of parliament, says it wants to establish a national racism register to track hate speech, build a slavery museum in the Netherlands and ban portrayals of Black Pete.

    But the new party has already had some internal disputes.

    Over the Christmas holiday, Simons announced a surprise split from Denk, to start her own party. She told the Dutch media she wants to widen her political platform to fight for gay rights and fair hiring practices, and that Denk's other members weren't receptive. Denk's leaders did not reply to NPR's request for comment.

    Obstacles to integration

    On a typical Sunday morning in a small Dutch town, parents cheer for their children on the sidelines of a youth soccer game. One of the dads points out his son playing for the visiting team, in blue jerseys.

    "The blue team is from Haarlem, a bigger city, and the orange team is from [the smaller town of] Voldendam. If you look, the orange team, they're only Dutch," father Bulent Ozturk says. "And the blue team, they're all foreign — Turkish and Moroccan kids, mainly."

    The Ozturk family has lived in the Netherlands for three generations, yet they still call themselves foreigners.

    "I can't explain what it means to be Dutch. Holland is a very small country. It doesn't really have an identity," Ozturk says. "You could easily be talking about German or Danish identity, because they're similar. I guess you can start talking about windmills and clocks and tulips."

    Ozturk's parents arrived from Turkey some 50 years ago, in the 1960s, as guest workers. At the time, Dutch companies were recruiting workers from rural parts of Morocco and Turkey.

    "They came to do jobs that Dutch people wouldn't like to do or they couldn't find people to do. So they were very welcome," Ozturk says. "But I don't feel at home here anymore."

    He says he plans to vote for Denk in the country's mid-March election.

    "It's a shame that we don't vote on a political basis, but on a race basis," Ozturk says, shaking his head.

    About a million of Holland's 17 million citizens are immigrants or their children or grandchildren — a potentially powerful group at the polls.

Dutch racist video meant to terrorize Black people in the country
 

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fukk the Dutch

This is racial abuse of an extreme nature.

The Dutch, who enslaved Africans across the Caribbean (and South Africa), are utilizing a 'character' borne out of the slave trade and are abusing Africans, who were created out of the Dutch slave trade/Empire, who oppose this racial violence.
 

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This is racial abuse of an extreme nature.

The Dutch, who enslaved Africans across the Caribbean (and South Africa), are utilizing a 'character' borne out of the slave trade and are abusing Africans, who were created out of the Dutch slave trade/Empire, who oppose this racial violence.
I have several relatives in the Netherlands

Dutch people love to deflect and say they're tolerant and aren't racist like Americans or the British but they are very racist

They still do Sinterklaas and zwartepiet in the ABC islands too :francis:
 

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I have several relatives in the Netherlands

Dutch people love to deflect and say they're tolerant and aren't racist like Americans or the British but they are very racist

They still do Sinterklaas and zwartepiet in the ABC islands too :francis:

Racism helped to build the wealth of the Netherlands. How could they possibly be anti-racist?

The last sentence you typed is shocking. Could the ABC islands survive without Dutch rule?
 

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Racism helped to build the wealth of the Netherlands. How could they possibly be anti-racist?

The last sentence you typed is shocking. Could the ABC islands survive without Dutch rule?
I'm not sure. The islands are way too small and depend on Holland for education, defence, aid etc. there's also a huge issue with imports (all food is imported) and deficit spending (our debt is huge)
we are in much better shape than some other islands and there was a plan for independence for Aruba and Curaçao that didn't pan out for whatever reason. Aruba was supposed to become independent in 96 but no vote was had. I need to do more research

If the Aruba and/or Curaçao become fully independent big changes need to be made
 

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I'm not sure. The islands are way too small and depend on Holland for education, defence, aid etc. there's also a huge issue with imports (all food is imported) and deficit spending (our debt is huge)
we are in much better shape than some other islands and there was a plan for independence for Aruba and Curaçao that didn't pan out for whatever reason. Aruba was supposed to become independent in 96 but no vote was had. I need to do more research

If the Aruba and/or Curaçao become fully independent big changes need to be made

Now is the time for an Afro-Atlantic Union
o a customs union, a uniform system of contract law and commercial arbitration, recognition of licenses and academic degrees, and freedom of travel, work and study

and an Afro-Atlantic University with satellite universities around the Black Atlantic
 

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Now is the time for an Afro-Atlantic Union
o a customs union, a uniform system of contract law and commercial arbitration, recognition of licenses and academic degrees, and freedom of travel, work and study

and an Afro-Atlantic University with satellite universities around the Black Atlantic
Interesting

A "Afro-EU" so to speak

Another barrier I forgot for the ABC islands is the massive drug trade that runs through

Holland wants to get rid of the islands but the US does not want a narcostate in the Caribbean (however tiny)
 

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she wants to widen her political platform to fight for gay rights and fair hiring practices and that Denk's other members weren't receptive. Denk's leaders did not reply to NPR's request for comment.

I'm not anti-gay at all but I'm tired of black political initiatives just HAVING to ALSO be pro-gay:francis: Like can't each just have their own organizations? It's like just that Blakc people are having some organizations, boom it's got to about something else too. These are different issues. Now you know the talk about the other people of Denk who didn't follow after the split will not be on the discrimination they face as being of foreign origin, but on the fact that they are not pro-gay enough.
 

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I'm not anti-gay at all but I'm tired of black political initiatives just HAVING to ALSO be pro-gay:francis: Like can't each just have their own organizations? It's like just that Blakc people are having some organizations, boom it's got to about something else too. These are different issues. Now you know the talk about the other people of Denk who didn't follow after the split will not be on the discrimination they face as being of foreign origin, but on the fact that they are not pro-gay enough.

She messed up politically. She left her own coalition to chase a demographic that's not directly hers. Ugh. You can still vote for anti discrimination policies which include LGBT folks. Girl is a bad politician.
 

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When I visited Amsterdam, seemed like the Dutch put yall in one black pot :mjpls: It's not a similar relationship as the English-speaking Caribbean countries?
It is similar with a lot of Surinamese folks on the islands (my grandfather is from Suriname too)

But demographically they're different due to having a lot of Indians/Indonesian/Chinese/Muslims
The ABC islands are pretty much Latin (catholic mestizo/black)

They speak Dutch natively and the islands don't . They also have been in Holland longer and mostly descend from folks that came in the 70s when they had Dutch citizenship
Arubans and Antilleans only went to Holland for school /when our economies went down . They are much more integrated with Holland than folks from the ABC Islands despite their greater diversity and size
 
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