The reason New York fell off

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Forget the rappers, New York hasn't had any great producers since Just Blaze
and he can't do every nikka album,
New York producers need to step their game up even more so than the rappers
 

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NY be sounding like the south nowadays. Ny birthed great rappers but the "mecca of rap :russ:" is now dusty as fukk
 

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Wrong...it's because there was no unity...everyone
Let's egos get involved instead of working together..it took nas and hov to long they could of did that a long time ago and saved ny hiphop
 
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The producer can be from anywhere...it's about who's choosing the beats...

you need a sound
everytime a region takes over its because the production
why you think everybody start trying to make southern style music

remember miami was running the shyt
Cool N Dre, the Runners, these nikkaz was coming with some fresh sounding heat
its a lot different than the atlanta producers even though they had similarities
 

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New York has its own sound. That sound is Mobb Deep.

New York been over since the NYC FANS back Jay instead of Prodigy when all P did was keep it real
 

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I think one of the simple reasons is that back when there was 5 styles in hiphop 3 of them being from NY..
It was quite easy to dominate the market and A&R's etc only checked out NY for artists.

But as urban divisions spread across the nation, Atlanta set up their thing with JD/Dungeon, Houston, NO, Detroit, Chicago and the internet allowed other people to come through.
Other cities set up their own hiphop institutions etc we saw a rise in hiphop from other regions. So more than NY falling off, other regions caught up.
NY is still the #2 city and it might be #1 again, but it's not gonna be easy. They've got to compete with rappers from the whole country instead of just a few people from the west, 1 or 2 from the south and the rest being from the 5 boroughs.

So basically there are no barriers to enter the hiphop game for anyone in the states. Even Drake could come down from Canada and take over hiphop. Macklemore moving a million units from fukking Seattle. J. Cole from a small town in NC, Freddie Gibbs from Gary, Indiana and on.
 

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some new york producers im fuking with that can make good stuff

Chuck Strangers
Kirk Knight
Erick Arc Elliott from flatbush zombies
Sporting Life from Ratking


im sure theirs others
 

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NY fell off because:

1. They made a conscious decision to throw their own identity in the bushes and jump on the south's nuts

2. Most NY rappers today can't write a SONG to save their lives. Not talking about spitting. I'm talking about writing an actual song that has some type of theme, a hook/chorus, etc. People identify with Drake, Kendrick, Cole, KRIT, etc because their music introduces you to who they are as people. NY is still doing lyrical miracle shyt talking about slanging, and generic street stories. I love Bronson but he's a perfect example of someone who is too busy creating a Superman persona to give a glimpse into his personal life. He got a couple personal tracks but not enough...

3. NY no longer has a producer that defines the city's sound. Typically this person doesn't even come from NY - think Premo, Just Blaze, Kanye, etc - but he finds a way to personify the NY "sound." Some think Harry Fraud is that dude but all I hear is old beats with new drums...
 

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some new york producers im fuking with that can make good stuff

Chuck Strangers
Kirk Knight
Erick Arc Elliott from flatbush zombies
Sporting Life from Ratking


im sure theirs others
Clams Casino is nice although he's from Jersey.
 
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