The relationship between Israel and America explained....makes perfect sense. Wow.

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This isn't even remotely close to being true.

Israel was not the baby of the U.S. It was the b*stard child of Great Britain that the UN basically adopted. The U.S. had an arms embargo from when Israel was established all the way up until JFK ended it in the early 60s, that's when the alliance essentially began, although it didn't completely get into bed with Israel until the 70s.
 

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This isn't even remotely close to being true.

Israel was not the baby of the U.S. It was the b*stard child of Great Britain that the UN basically adopted. The U.S. had an arms embargo from when Israel was established all the way up until JFK ended it in the early 60s, that's when the alliance essentially began, although it didn't completely get into bed with Israel until the 70s.
The US supporting Israel to keep the region destabilized is true. You're already admitting that Israel hasn't been America's project for as long as anyone in this thread has been alive. That's long enough
 
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The US supporting Israel to keep the region destabilized is true. You're already admitting that Israel hasn't been America's project for as long as anyone in this thread has been alive. That's long enough
Israel, as a project, was founded upon France and other European countries long before the U.S. backed it. It's revisionism to say Israel was our baby or our project, and I question the motive of anyone trying to frame it as such.

They grew to power before any subsidization from the U.S.

Now, that doesn't negate the fact the U.S. essentially hot-lined, hot-songed that shyt for its own cause, but it's not our creation. It absolves all those who're responsible for creating it in the first place. You can tell a factual account of how our country and Israel became allies without dramatizing it.
 
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The United Stares can move in and put an end to whatever Israel is doing at any given time. Any given time.

Have we forgot about how White folks move though? Them letting Jews take the primary blame for all the evils in the world they themselves are guilty of is exactly the game plan and one way to keep it going.

Canada and the U.S has now been doing the same with India. I think only 5% of the total Canadian population is Indian? Only 1.5% for the U.S. Let them tell it they’re ruining these countries and running everything. There’s no way these groups have enough power to, unless someone lets them.

It’s easy to pin things on a group of people when a select few of them are doing things exceptionally well and prevalent in the corporate and academic world. Makes them an easy target to tack responsibility on. It’s human behavior and those who want to control things know they don’t want to be center stage.

Whole thing is a classic misdirection.
 
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Israel, as a project, was founded upon France and other European countries long before the U.S. backed it. It's revisionism to say Israel was our baby or our project, and I question the motive of anyone trying to frame it as such.

They grew to power before any subsidization from the U.S.

Now, that doesn't negate the fact the U.S. essentially hot-lined, hot-songed that shyt for its own cause, but it's not our creation. It absolves all those who're responsible for creating it in the first place. You can tell a factual account of how our country and Israel became allies without dramatizing it.
Creation of Israel, 1948
On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day.
Eliahu Elath presenting ark to President Truman
Although the United States supported the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which favored the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine, President Franklin D. Roosevelt had assured the Arabs in 1945 that the United States would not intervene without consulting both the Jews and the Arabs in that region. The British, who held a colonial mandate for Palestine until May 1948, opposed both the creation of a Jewish state and an Arab state in Palestine as well as unlimited immigration of Jewish refugees to the region. Great Britain wanted to preserve good relations with the Arabs to protect its vital political and economic interests in Palestine.

Soon after President Truman took office, he appointed several experts to study the Palestinian issue. In the summer of 1946, Truman established a special cabinet committee under the chairmanship of Dr. Henry F. Grady, an Assistant Secretary of State, who entered into negotiations with a parallel British committee to discuss the future of Palestine. In May 1946, Truman announced his approval of a recommendation to admit 100,000 displaced persons into Palestine and in October publicly declared his support for the creation of a Jewish state. Throughout 1947, the United Nations Special Commission on Palestine examined the Palestinian question and recommended the partition of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. Under the resolution, the area of religious significance surrounding Jerusalem would remain a corpus separatum under international control administered by the United Nations.

Although the United States backed Resolution 181, the U.S. Department of State recommended the creation of a United Nations trusteeship with limits on Jewish immigration and a division of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab provinces but not states. The State Department, concerned about the possibility of an increasing Soviet role in the Arab world and the potential for restriction by Arab oil producing nations of oil supplies to the United States, advised against U.S. intervention on behalf of the Jews. Later, as the date for British departure from Palestine drew near, the Department of State grew concerned about the possibility of an all-out war in Palestine as Arab states threatened to attack almost as soon as the UN passed the partition resolution.

Despite growing conflict between Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews and despite the Department of State’s endorsement of a trusteeship, Truman ultimately decided to recognize the state Israel.


The U.S. was integral to the founding of Israel.
 
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Creation of Israel, 1948
On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day.
Eliahu Elath presenting ark to President Truman
Although the United States supported the Balfour Declaration of 1917, which favored the establishment of a Jewish national home in Palestine, President Franklin D. Roosevelt had assured the Arabs in 1945 that the United States would not intervene without consulting both the Jews and the Arabs in that region. The British, who held a colonial mandate for Palestine until May 1948, opposed both the creation of a Jewish state and an Arab state in Palestine as well as unlimited immigration of Jewish refugees to the region. Great Britain wanted to preserve good relations with the Arabs to protect its vital political and economic interests in Palestine.

Soon after President Truman took office, he appointed several experts to study the Palestinian issue. In the summer of 1946, Truman established a special cabinet committee under the chairmanship of Dr. Henry F. Grady, an Assistant Secretary of State, who entered into negotiations with a parallel British committee to discuss the future of Palestine. In May 1946, Truman announced his approval of a recommendation to admit 100,000 displaced persons into Palestine and in October publicly declared his support for the creation of a Jewish state. Throughout 1947, the United Nations Special Commission on Palestine examined the Palestinian question and recommended the partition of Palestine into a Jewish and an Arab state. On November 29, 1947 the United Nations adopted Resolution 181 (also known as the Partition Resolution) that would divide Great Britain’s former Palestinian mandate into Jewish and Arab states in May 1948 when the British mandate was scheduled to end. Under the resolution, the area of religious significance surrounding Jerusalem would remain a corpus separatum under international control administered by the United Nations.

Although the United States backed Resolution 181, the U.S. Department of State recommended the creation of a United Nations trusteeship with limits on Jewish immigration and a division of Palestine into separate Jewish and Arab provinces but not states. The State Department, concerned about the possibility of an increasing Soviet role in the Arab world and the potential for restriction by Arab oil producing nations of oil supplies to the United States, advised against U.S. intervention on behalf of the Jews. Later, as the date for British departure from Palestine drew near, the Department of State grew concerned about the possibility of an all-out war in Palestine as Arab states threatened to attack almost as soon as the UN passed the partition resolution.

Despite growing conflict between Palestinian Arabs and Palestinian Jews and despite the Department of State’s endorsement of a trusteeship, Truman ultimately decided to recognize the state Israel.


The U.S. was integral to the founding of Israel.
The fact you just ran to Google, quoting completely irrelevant text without any regard to actual context shows you shouldn't be discussing this topic.

Never mind the fact nothing you quoted indicates the U.S. was "integral" in the establishment of Israel. They had absolutely nothing to do with the founding of it. If you had actually bothered to read what you referenced, you'd see that the U.S. recognized it as a legitimate Jewish state (largely because of Truman's sympathy towards the Jewish cause given his religious upbringing), which in part, set a precedent for the rest of the world to recognize as such.

Israel was NOT founded, created, a baby of, a project of the U.S. It wasn't integral in the founding of it and it wasn't even integral in the founding of it rising to power.
 

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The fact you just ran to Google, quoting completely irrelevant text without any regard to actual context shows you shouldn't be discussing this topic.

Never mind the fact nothing you quoted indicates the U.S. was "integral" in the establishment of Israel. They had absolutely nothing to do with the founding of it. If you had actually bothered to read what you referenced, you'd see that the U.S. recognized it as a legitimate Jewish state (largely because of Truman's sympathy towards the Jewish cause given his religious upbringing), which in part, set a precedent for the rest of the world to recognize as such.

Israel was NOT founded, created, a baby of, a project of the U.S. It wasn't integral in the founding of it and it wasn't even integral in the founding of it rising to power.
I think doth protest too much. I shouldn't have run to Google? I should just take your word for it? lol
Recognizing it first gave it legitimacy thus being integral to its founding. That's why that fact is mentioned in an article titled, " Creation of Israel, 1948." Derrr!
 
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